Fence Fighting! - Page 4

This is ridiculously pointless!  Obviously NO ONE read what I wrote, so, screw it!!!!  Think what you want about me, none of you know me or know anything about me, there is a way to talk with people, and telling them they have a problem and should not buy a dog is rude!  I am sure that this behavoir problem will be resolved, I have managed my shepherds for the past 15 yrs, without the help of the database!  I just thought I would get some other opinions.  Mistake on my part!  Take care. 

Here are 6 of mine that learned....and one is three months old....Dieter learned in three days after he got home from ALABAMA>>>>

          PLATZ         AND    DO NOT MOVE ONE MUSCLE UNTIL I SAY SO!!!!!!!

  Don't think any of these dogs look too beat up...you notice the attention to the pack leader...I'm taking the pic... the sixth one is not showing..I will post the next pic in a few.. it shows 6 adults and guess who , stood up...that was before this pic,,and you see what Dieter is now doing...he dare not move.

Zu, female on the left, is the mother of all three males, but not Dieter , the young pup.

You will notice , tools on grass in picture are balls and one kong ., and a puppy tug made out of gunny sac from coffee plant in Tyler.  Once the dogs learn to focus on YOU at all times, you reward them for their undivided attention. It takes days and months of constant repetition and focus on YOU to attain obedience and control and your dog soon loves to do exactly what you want him/her to do. One word , one command , instant results. Nothing else is acceptable.

Four males and two females , one not showing..

                                                  Someone got up...

now two females and three males , and Thor is missing  in this view...Zu . the female second in line, is the Mother of all these but Dieter , the young pup. Discipline was easy with all of these dogs. who had food drive and high prey drive to work with.

They also had high agression levels, but heavy obedience was inplemented before bitework .                                                                           

Gsd4fun,What I picked up on in reading this thread is that you were going out with her to work then the gas prices than you stopped and she changed.PM me.

I have a similar problem, but they are not fighting amongst themselves. My land is fenced, and on one side, my neighbors dogs have dug a 'peek hole' under the fence. This upsets my boys to no end. They are obsessed with confronting these intruders.

If they acted so in front of me, I'd have no problem correcting. Problem is the moment I step outside they both zoom to me, sit in front and ask "what are we doing now"? Hard to correct for coming to me. I can see the fence fighting when I look out the house window.

I have no kennels, they are all house dogs. So, potty must be outdoors in my fenced land. I've thought of putting up another barrier fence that would not allow them to get near the borderline fence, but really hate the thoughts of how that would look.

How do I correct for behavior that is only done when I am not out with them?

P.S. I'd wait outside for the potty business to be done, but when I'm out, all pottying leaves their minds.

Macawpower- I also have neighbors dogs who were running and fence fighting with my guys, it is frustrating, we actually did put another fence up, they were all obsessive with the neighbors!  Same thing with me, when I was not our there they would do it, but when I come out, they are all with me!  Also a little off topic but do you have macamws?  I have 2 rescue M2's!  They are something!!  lol

I have a Greenwing macaw, Goffin cockatoo, and Mealy amazon.  Muluccans are special birds.  How cool that you have rescued two of them, that takes commitment!  I raised my 3 from babies.

As for the fence running/fighting, another fence looks like the only option I really have.  I have thought about E-collars, but have heard many say that when wanting to do battle, they could just escalate instead of solve the problem.  I also am not well versed in the use of e collars, and would hate to do damage unintentionally.

gsd4fun,

An e-collar worked for me with the fence problem years ago when my male GSD would run fence with the neighbors GSD..I did not want him to know it was me causing the correction ( I wanted him to think it was his actions that were responsible so that it would work when I wasn't around )so I would watch from the window and when he started trotting towards the fence with that intense look on his face hoping to find his fence buddy waiting- I would start at a low level before he escalated hoping it was higher than his drive at that point.

 It is the only time I used an e-collar but they were driving the others crazy too when they got going - at one point  he redirected aggression towards me when I was trying to take him off the fence after he was already at it for a few minutes. No stitches but  it hurt like hell and was bruised for days!!

Other than that I use a combination of traditional and PR training. It depends on the dog. But as others have said e-collars are tricky  and could backfire.

I know a trainer that tried to use it on a dog reacting to another dog in his class and he thought it would solve the problem so he waited until the dog barked and went after the other dog and he zapped him-well as I said it backfired and the dog went from just barking and jumping to a full out attack caused by the collar-I'm not a pro like some-but my guess would be that he thought this dog cause this and he wanted to put him in his place! The trainer looked at the class and said-wow I guess it didn't work !!  LOL umm nope!!

k

Santa is watching, so you better not fight!

I have the same problem, neighbor got a husky and does not supervise.  Husky charges the fence and my 3 females go crazy.  As long as I am out with them it is manageable - I can keep mine away from the fence line, but the Husky raises heck and my dogs get distracted from doing there business.  I built a potty area within my fence and had stone laid.  This way I can easily let them into the coral for potty breaks, and don't have to go out with them all the time, just when we are training or throwing the ball in the bigger yard.  It is a real pain though as within 2 minutes of me letting my dogs out, the neighbor lets the husky out and then I have to spend time keeping my dogs away from the fence line, and then play becomes a hassle.  I usually just pack them up and take them to the park.  I will invest in another row of privacy fence to give a buffer, just waiting for the ground to thaw.  It would be nice to be able to let them out occassionally without having to supervise them like a hawk.

Cheryl