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by HighDesertGSD on 16 October 2008 - 17:10
I think many people still do not understand that in the making of kibbles, depending on the ingredient,s the difficulty is frequently in keeping the calcium level acceptably low. It is easy to just use a powerful grinder to grind up any meat-bone combination. This inclusion of powered bone is not natural, and differs in the way that animal injest intact bones.

by steve1 on 16 October 2008 - 20:10
So what you are saying is that the manufacuers of kibble do not know what they are doing and just guessing at the ratios of calcium and vit contents etc that the food they make contains
If we are not to believe them and in many instances a lot do not including myself it some instances, but they should know by testing how much calcium etc there kibble contains
If they give false statements then they should be bought to book over it
Steve

by tigermouse on 16 October 2008 - 21:10
LMAO i have never seen a wolf with a set of scales....(sorry)
Steve do you give any supplements with the orijen?
by HighDesertGSD on 16 October 2008 - 21:10
That is why I ask if you can trust the maker of the kibbles, the quality of the personnel etc. Intention is one thing, execution/administration is another.
That is also why I think chicken if a safer source of protein, over large animals such as cattle. Even if a maker or a worker is negligent, the chance of very high calcium is reduced.
AFFCO says that an independent lab is to analyze the content. I just don't know the details of how frequent and if store-bought samples are tested etc, or if the maker supplies a sample etc.

by steve1 on 17 October 2008 - 05:10
Tigermouse
Yes, On the morning feed i put a squirt of salmon oil on it with a capsule of Vit E, the evening feed nothing just kibble dry
once a week i give them an egg with shell
and that is it I feed twice a day because then they do not get full up at any time, i just measure once the amount i intend to feed for a day and cut in into two feeds
All treats are taken out of the food ration in the first place,
i.e tracking they do not get extras when tracking, when they come home the food is taken from there ration, or i should say not put in the first place
They look fit and act that way, the coat shines and so do the eyes and they tell us very near everything, so thats my way
Steve

by tigermouse on 17 October 2008 - 07:10
thanks steve

by steve1 on 17 October 2008 - 09:10
As you Guys will now have realisedthat over feeding for me is a NO' NO' regardlessof the species Dog, Pigeons , Humans etc
This is of course my opnion and i cannot say it is a right one or a wrong one but it does work for me and work every time
In my honest opinion, if you buy a Top Grade Kibble like Origen or Solid Gold to feed a Large Breed Pup like the G.S and i will this Christmas time, be doing that to a new German Shepherd Female Pup, Not yet born but will be by the end of the Month
To get back to the Kibble and what it contains and we know Orijen and Most of Solid Gold does not contain Grains
It is the amount of food the baby Pup is Fed, which in my thoughts contrbute to Skeletal Problems, ie Hips and Elbows problems and bad scores
I truly believe that folk rearing the Pup from 8 to 9 weeks old upwards think it needs to be given all it can eat or near so because it has to Grow,
So the Pup grows fast and Becomes overweight very quickly, which we know is load bearing on on its bones and Joints
I do the opposite, i underfeed the Pup just that little bit on a top grade kibble like Orijen , It will then look for more which is good
This will do two things
It will grow at the right rate and not too fast, plus it will be more observant to you the owner from day one which is a good thing
This is my way, and it works for my G.S Dogs All Hips A Normal plus other large breed Dogs just the same Joints perfect over the many years of keeping them
All Dogs died at an old age the youngest was 12 the oldest 16.5, different breeds, but all reared on the above way, Plus never any skin troubles etc in any Dog, vets bills very few
Steve

by tigermouse on 17 October 2008 - 13:10
well i am absolutely thrilled with Orijen,
NO gas
Perfect poos, small well formed
They love it (even the picky one)
more energy
and bright eyed and bushy tailed lol
i will post again in a few weeks but overall Orijen is fantastic, the thing that surprised me was even with such a rapid change over no diarrhoea!

by Deejays_Owner on 17 October 2008 - 14:10
Like Steve, I have being feeding Orijen for over a 1 & 1/2, the best food we have tried.
I now have a pup on Orijen Large puppy, she just turned 5 months last week and she was 40.2 lbs.
Other pups from the litter that are on Raw, are the same weight within a lb.
Here is a few pictures, the male is 25" tall & 75 lbs.
by Larrydee on 17 October 2008 - 15:10
In my opinion Orijen is by far the best kibble on the market bar none. Why anyone except for price would feed any other kibble is beyound me.
Orijen is a family owned and operated business for 25 years in Calgary Alberta Canada. Go Flames!! They own their own manufacturing facility very rare these days. They buy all their own foodstuffs. They have fresh meat delevered daily from local farms. There quality control procedures are second to none even to the extent of hiring and outside quality contol company to re-inpect their operation.
Why are so many of us having such good luck with Orijen well it's no secret they don't compromise on Quality throughout the whole manufacturing process. They leave nothing to chance in other words they control their own destiny. From ownership to raw materials to manufacturing and quality control they do it all themselves.
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