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by sbeyer on 29 April 2008 - 14:04
Hi,
My 18 month old rough Collie has had two consecutive negative reactions to Promeris with consistent symptoms each time. He immediately began trotting non-stop for about 2 hours. This seemingly from the smell which is very very strong. No vomiting, but extreme lethargy for about 36 hours. He was also thirsty, but did eat after 12 hours. Not drooling, but seems to be scratching one side of his snout and inside right paw.
We called the vet (who sold the Promeris to us). He said his dog (also a young female collie) exhibited the same symptoms. He is accepting our return of the product and recommending Advantix. Cannot recommend Promeris.
by juju on 29 April 2008 - 17:04
DOGLOVER2--Ignorant, I'm not! i questioned my vet at length prior to purchasing--the vet even applied the first dose( and only other one my dog had -i mistakenly rept. that she had two prior to the incident)in the office right in front of me--i followed his instructions--my dog could not lick the spot it was applied--she suffered a serious reaction folowed by weeks of diarhea and apparently permanent kidney damage--the vet i have used for 20 plus years and the vet that treated my dog for the poisoning stated to me that he had seen this before and that they (the vet office) were not selling it any longer---so why should i be upset? If this had been a medical doctor, he/she would have been held to the flame professionally and legally. If this vet office had made one small decision to notify their clients that purchased this, all of this could have been prevented. I think it is their obligation to do so. They have a sophisticated computer system and i am certain they could have easily determined which clients purchased this and easily sent a mass mailing--it has only been on the mkt for a short time which also makes this task easier. It is the responsibility of the vet profession to make these sound judgements. we as pet owners depend on that. as for my vet being foggy and uneducated because of years out of school, that is an ignorant statement coming from you. think about it. i am suspicious of your motives for such an inflammatory post..the reason for blogging about this: awareness, plain and simply. and if i want to complain about the way the vet handled the situation, i have the freedom to do so. message boards are for sharing experiences and unfortunately, my experience involved specifics that call to question this professional's attitude and judgement.

by yellowrose of Texas on 29 April 2008 - 20:04
I agree JU Ju: Im far from ignorant and my vet agrees with me...we are poisoning our dogs and our kids and ourselves....read Kevin Trudeaus book....vet or no vet dr. or no DR> they all are coming to their senses when Americans wake up and study and use your own brain and make your own decisions...when breeders come on here and tell you they have used garlic and brewers yeast for twenty years on their dogs and horses....and are of the knowledge then believe it...unless you hav e a sick dog with medical problems already ,,in that case dont do anything different...chemicals are not good for any of us.....and if you think the epa and the FDA are truthful...sleep no more wake up in your world..
In my world they are liars and we have plenty of proof to that...
Read the dog websites given on this base for the last two years , read the book listed above both his old version and the update version...sold at Walmart or on line book stores.
Revolution , Premerius and the FOrt Dodge preventative called Pro Heart", taken off the market for the very same reason as told above..Many a vet continued to use Pro Heart for months after Fort Dodge alerted them..Money talks and )))))))))))))))))))))))s./

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by tonyalovespits on 30 April 2008 - 21:04
I do believe that the doctor handled the situation incorrectly, but please do not blame all veterinarians for suggesting this new product. I am a tech at a one doctor practice in MI. We only have your pet's best interest in mind when we make certain recommendations. Fort Dodge did a wonderful job selling us their Promeris (we are a Frontline Plus only clinic) and now we may be regretting it. We have only had the procuct for 2 days and the things that I have been hearing in the past 2 days are horrific. If it weren't for sites like these we would only hear what the manufacturer tells us to sell the product. As a member of the veterinary practice, I am sincerely sorry for any undue circumstances pet owners have gone through after using Promeris. Hopefully people will keep talking about it on messageboards and get the word out quickly. We will be pulling the product from our shelves and continuing with what we know works and does not cause reactions.....Frontline Plus.
by tonyalovespits on 30 April 2008 - 21:04
Until a vet sees that a product is producing reactions in more than 1 or 2 patients per practice (sometimes more), it is generally considered an isolated situation which unfortunately is not a reason to pull a product. The more that people talk about Promeris, the more awareness there will be out there. I hope Fort Dodge can redeem themselves after this, but I do not blame the veterinarians one bit. We have to trust the manufacturers of our products and if we can't, there is a big problem with our society.
by Shelly1 on 30 April 2008 - 22:04
I have 2 dogs, a black lab and a lab mix. I have found that Frontline does not work. I prefer to use Promeris, My dogs have not had any adverse reactions to Promeris. I do read the directions and I am careful to apply according to the directions.
by capp171 on 03 May 2008 - 18:05
Hello. I am not a German Shepard owner but I am trying to go on as many sites as I can to warn about the risks of ProMeris. I have an 11 yr old Siberian Husky. We recently switched to ProMeris on the advice of our vet. Two night ago, when pulling what I thought was a normal plug of shedding husky hair, I noticed that there were large clumps of dead skin on the end of these hair strands. On the way to the vet, I was talking with a good friend and telling her of what was going on with me baby and she confirmed that she is going through the same thing with her Shepard and had also switched to the ProMeris recently. Now my beautiful boy has a large bald spot between his shoulder blades where the medication was applied and is on medication to treat his skin for 21 days. Please be very careful with this medication. I have read many things since finding the spot on my dog that scares me to death. The smell is AWFUL and so much worse than any of the other topical flea/tick meds. I hope that all find this helpful and heed the warning
by Aravyndra on 12 May 2008 - 16:05
I was looking up ProMeris info online and found this site. I want to pass this to other sites.
My vet switched to Promeris after Fort Dodge's schpleel about how much better it was and how ticks and fleas built an immunity to frontline over the years.
When I first got my pup - Dojo Kansuke 1 year ago yesterday... I had him on Frontline and never had issues other than it irritated him for about an hour where he'd roll around or cry if you blew on the spot. But the skin never turned red, he never had any other reactions, and after an hour he was fine.
And most importantly no fleas or ticks.
But the Vet was really gungho about ProMeris, and how much more effective it was (WITH NO SIDE EFFECTS). So I bought it. (It was more expensive but to protect your pets you'll do whatever, ne?)
he's on his 2nd application and yesterday, I found a tick. I was a little heebie jeebied, but I was able to get it off by the head. I knew I had gotten it all cause it was still alive. I put it in a ziplock baggie and waited for ProMeris to take effect. 5 hours later the bugger was still alive. I was kind of upset. My dog was sensative in that spot where he was bit, I know Ticks carry diseases from Lymes carried by wood ticks, to rocky mountain spotted fever carried by American Dog ticks. (I know less that 1% of American Dog Ticks are carriers of RMSP... but its still a concern)
So I started researching online and found people complaining about ProMeris. So I started looking around Fort Dodge and other ProMeris pusher sites to see if they had answers to these complaints. Their answer - almost all complains are proven to stem from 1 Legitament complaint." In otherwords, all complaints except for 1 extreme and rare case, were frauds.
I couldn't believe that, so I posted my own story on Yahoo!answers and found a lot of people who were posting problems with ProMeris from different reactions to ineffectiveness. I was getting more upset.
I called my vet this morning, and he told me to come on in, he'd check my dog's ear where he was bit for free, and exchange the ProMeris for Frontline... and since I bought 6, he'd give me a 6 pack even though I had used 2 of the Promeris... since it didn't work.
I was like "You have Frontline again? When I came in to buy it you told me you no longer carried it for x amount of reasons."
he said the clinic has a file of complaints about Promeris from Lethargy to Diarrhea to now, ineffectiveness. They've tried contacting ProMeris.... but the reps will not get back to them. They can never get a live person to answer their concerns and they've lost faith in the product and company.
Someone I talked to said it wouldn't have done any good to contact Promeris anyway, because she was able to get ahold of a Fort Dodge rep and they told her it was basically her own ineptness at administering the medication that caused the problems. being a DVM she was a bit upset to be told she didn't know how to administer medications she'd beeen administering without problems for years.
And for anyone who thinks this is one of those "rumors" stemming from one initial rumor... email me at otakuusaradio@gmail.com and I'll send you the name of the vet and their phone number so you can call them personally and ask.
ProMeris is ineffective, the side effects are bad, and its just not a product I trust anywhere near my baby.

by BabyEagle4U on 12 May 2008 - 18:05
Good Thread. It looks to be of importance outside the DB
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