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by 1doggie2 on 22 February 2008 - 01:02
Here is the site for the states that have puppy lemon laws and what they are. http://www.malteseonly.com/lemon.html
I am very excited for this to happen.
I also think there should be a menton of elbows, and hips not always caused by genes. YOU the buyer can unwittingly cause harm, by allowing to much excerise, jumping to high (like the back of your sv) Proper nutrition. Maybe just a page of hints on health). Hodie, I know not your intent, Just someone needs to tell them. maybe can just post it on the site, I think I am asking to much, but as long as I am at it> maybe would take some heat off the breeders, if they would tell the truth, no matter how good the pedigree and both parents Normal Hips, 25% of litter can have hip issue. Breeder is not breeding for bad hips, just the way it is. Every breed has it's Health issues carried thru the genes.
Maybe on another web page for the site, trainers could advertise there (charge them a small fee and give it to the rescues), so they could find a trainer in their location, with disclosure, you are not reccomending them. along with the reason WHY the owner needs training more than the dog.
Also, as long as you are intent on being fair, I would suggest a bad buyer page, if your going to out the breeder, only fair. they can sign thier rights away and that they agree to this prior to arbitration. You could close this to public view, but allow the breeders only (who belong) to check this page out. Have the breeders who belong, sign that they will not share this information with anyone else. We all know there are people who should not own a GSD or any dog for that matter.
i know not your intent, but I can hope that people who own dogs get educated.

by darylehret on 22 February 2008 - 02:02
I wouldn't get too carried away just yet, as broad and diverse as these problems may be within the breed, my observation is that the larger majority of discontent revolves around issues of that initial transaction (guarantees or lack of, or buying without researching, or purchasing without reading the contract). Those ideas are great and I could toss in a few more, but they involve a lot of effort that would redirect the focus of this thread, which will be more productive as a concentrated effort on a single focus.
As far as elbows go, I don't think they're quite as necessary, but definitely an added boon to the breeder for offering that guarantee. There are of course other common problems in the breed, and my contract simply states in "full sweep", Ehret German Shepherds warranties for 5 years from the date of birth, against genetic diseases, allergies, heart problems, thyroid problems, or if the dog’s death is directly due to a congenital health problem as diagnosed by aveterinarian.
by 1doggie2 on 22 February 2008 - 15:02
I knew I was carried away, one can only hope??? Also, I understood that maybe to much information in the beginiing may put off breeders/buyers. However, as it develops........... Always best to begin with "keep it simple "stupid".

by spernagsds on 23 February 2008 - 02:02
Hi there...
I only breed a litter a year however I have a contract that was drawn up by my attorney. I recently had a buyer who signed the contract without any interest in what it had to say at all even though I sat down to go over it with her. I am interested in what new things this has to offer and am willing to help out in any way I can...
Shannan
by hodie on 23 February 2008 - 03:02
Speaknow,
The AKC has a Breeder Code of Ethics through the GSDCA. It is hardly ever invoked and I know of only very rare instances where breeders have been sanctioned. It would be great if they and other "for the German Shepherd dog" groups would indeed hold their members' feet to the fire.
Secondly, yes, there are other arbitration boards and someone is certainly free to use the legal system or some other arbitration or none at all. In fact, we may have not a single person wish to use this board. But unless you are new here, and many think that is not the case and that you are simply using a different sign on name, you know full well of all the shenanigans that go on. What would YOU propose to do about it? Or do you care?
by Blitzen on 23 February 2008 - 15:02
Any member of the GSDCA can file against another for a violation of their breeder's code. Signing that code was optional when I was a member and I think it still is. However, if a breeder signs it then he is expected to conform to all the provisions. . The charges then go before a committee for review and disposition and if found guilty, the member will be disciplined in some manner.
I tried to access the link above, but only got the home page for Cox, an ISP I think. Is this still an active active project and is there another link or was that the correct one and do I need to registered with Cox in order to access the page?
I hope this takes off as there are some very poorly written contracts in the dog world and most breeders don't bother to pay an attorney to review them. Most of which I would never sign myself.
by Speaknow on 23 February 2008 - 21:02

by Poopyscoopy on 11 April 2008 - 19:04
There is no luck for me in pulling up this contract?
by WiscTiger on 11 April 2008 - 20:04
This link will work. Many times PDF documents are not hosted in the WWW folder, they are on the website just not in the WWW folder, so when you drop the WWW out as done on the link below you will be able to access the test doc.
http://ehretgsd.com/testdoc.pdf
WiscTiger
Val

by Bob-O on 12 April 2008 - 03:04
Some years ago I added another clause to my sale contract because of isolated dog bite incidents. For what it is or is not worth, clause reads:
Section VIII-Legal Responsibility and Liabilities of the Owner(s)
The Owner(s) agrees to hold the Breeder absolutely harmless in the event this dog causes injury or death to the Owner(s), any personal pets, livestock, person(s) or property for the lifetime of the dog.
Regards,
Bob-O
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