What do you fear if Hillary gets elected? - Page 3

GSDAdmin. " Remember Businesses are not charity but they are hear to make money which is not making them mean as Democrats would like you to beleive but because it is necessity for their survival."

That must be why they have trillions parked overseas - for their survival, SMH.

Hans:"" EXACTLY!!!!!!"

GSDadmin: " The importation of Muslims has also nothing to do with help to downtrodden. But IT IS HERE TO GENERATE MORE DEPENDENTS AND THUS VOTERS."

Now Muslims are a commodity. Importation, LMAO.

Ever heard of Norway?

Hans : Yes to Democrats Muslims are voting commodity. And I have heard of Norway? What about it?

No, they have those trillions parked to avoid paying taxes. Because if we said okay that money is tax free - it would not be parked in overseas accounts. Muslims are a conservative peoples in general. There religion is very conservative so why are you switching this around? I think you are a very confused person. I think you want to blame everything that goes wrong on other people as witnessed by your many dust ups with members here over the years. Businesses will survive if they meet customer requirements and innovate. A business could have billions of dollars and still fail. But you say money is key to their survival. I disagree. I also disagree with any human being a commodity, enslave much?

Stalin was a liberal? Hitler was a liberal?

I know, it sounds underacted and ridiculous but in case no one knew, anything, anyone and everything bad in Prager's universe is labeled liberal.

If you think gays should be allowed to marry you are a liberal. If, like Hitler, you think gays should be persecuted and sent to concentration camps then you must be a liberal. If, like Stalin, you hate capitalism you are a liberal. If, like Hillary Clinton you are wealthy and the bankers support you, you are a liberal.

But...if you believe in liberal values like free speech, freedom of the press, civil rights, democracy, secular government, separation of church and state, gender equality, tolerance, etc., you are not a liberal. Somehow you are a republican.

Here's another strange Pragerism. Democrats and liberals want to keep blacks poor so they stay on welfare and live in poor areas, which also are violent areas. This way they'll vote for the democrats who provide them with welfare and other necessities. The problem is that this scenario also creates a higher number of ineligible voters due to felony records.

Since you do not understand or act as if you would not understand what I am saying, I will explain. Stalin and Hitler were not liberal in classical and today European way which is what we in US consider libertarian.  But Hitler and Stalin were liberals - leftists - socialists - in US way where liberals are basically leftists- socialists - democrats and from that follows basically fascists forcing others to conform to their agenda via statism and soft tyranny and otherwise trying to shut opposition up by PC agenda and by shutting conservative opposition in Schools of all levels as we can see it these days everywhere . 
There are different types of socialism and leftism which are variable in minute things like you pointed out about gays, but that in larger scheme of things is only unimportant red herring, and major and important  differences  are ,...  international socialism ( Lenin /Stalin) and nationalist socialism like Hitler and Mussolini and some others issues. But in principle national and international socialists are operating under same or similar rules. 
In principle leftists/democrats in US are called liberals and leftists believe in socialist agenda. They are statist with totalitarian propensity who are using soft tyranny to control their underlings and means of production transportation services and private property. 

So what is socialism? Most can not answer this without using Google. I'll say this: Socialism is a politico economic system where government controls means of production, transportation, services and property ownership. That is exactly what Hitler and Lenin and Stalin and US democrats want(ed). That is where the constant and crippling regulations come from. For example Obama presidency added
20,642 new regulations.
That is more than $22 billion per year in new regulatory costs were imposed on Americans last year, pushing the total burden for the Obama years to exceed $100 billion annually.
That’s a dollar for every star in the galaxy, or one for every second in 32 years. And I am not even talking about oppression of personal freedom by soft tyranny. And Democratic - Socialist Hillary wants to continue this on steroids. Freedom is oppressed and economy is collapsing while useful idiots are clapping and cheering and voting democrats = left- liberal - leftist - socialists - fascists.
I hope that with this truths,  whose hell I have lived and escaped here from,  I have offended many useful idiots.
Cheers.
Prager Hans

" So what is socialism? Most can not answer this without using google. I'll say this: Socialism is a politico economic system where government controls means of production, transportation, services and property ownership."

Looks like you also know how to use google and try to cite your sources when copying and pasting others words. Quit stealing others words without giving them credit. SMH.

Also, you are the ignorant one painting liberals as being like Hitler. There are many articles on the net about this very topic and I see your biased ignorant self only reads what you believe. Hitler was way more conservative than liberal.  http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm

This is why people wonder why I use the word liberal in its original meaning. The values in our Constitution are liberal values. What the right wing did, because the right wing is opposed to that values, is label the left liberal so as to vilify the idea of liberalism. They wanted those traditional liberal values to be associated with communism. It's like what happened with McCarthyism. Label writers and actors in "liberal" Hollywood communists so as to prevent them from being able to exercise their freedoms. Was it only the fear communism or what was it also the fear of political dissent and the liberal social values that Hollywood was and still is promoting? So they just label all of it communism and liberalism became associated with communism.

Then you have someone like Prager who puts every horrible person who ever lived, and he didn't come up with that idea on his own, in the liberal camp to further vilify the words liberal and liberalism. Think about this: the root of liberal is liber which means freedom in Latin. Liberal as an adjective means suitable for a free man. How does the word freedom become a bad thing? How do the word freedom and the liberal values of our nation become associated with Hitler?

Also, how do the liberal values of our Constitution get associated with republicans? They renamed those values "traditional American values" even though they are not the same values as the Founders' values, but rather their corrupt version of those vales, and even if they were the same values as the Founders' values those values are not traditional American ones. The liberal values this nation was founded on were not invented or conceived here. Individual liberty is the most important aspect of those values and republicans TODAY stand in opposition to many questions of individual liberty. Why? Because the right wing opposes anything which threatens the status quo. If the republican party were truly the party of liberty and liberal values then the libertarian party would be superfluous. The republicans are conservatives (supposedly) and the libertarians are conservatives. Why do we need both? What's the difference. Just look at their positions on questions of individual freedoms and you'll see which party is more in line with traditional liberal values as expressed in our Constitution. Hint: it isn't the GOP.

So again we have to ask, when it comes to Prager's unoriginal idea of Hitler being a leftist/liberal, how is that possible? How is it possible that those in favor of multiculturalism and civil rights for everyone are liberals/leftists and someone who embodied the antithesis of that was also a liberal/leftist? It's simple, he just wants to vilify a word because he doesn't really believe in the values this country was founded on. He calls himself a libertarian yet, he never mentions their candidate and instead supports Trump. It should also be noted that Prager worships Ayn Rand and if anyone is aware of her thoughts on religion and those who believe it it further illustrates his nonsensical way of thinking.

Finally we have the economic issue. This is where some like to focus when calling Hitler a liberal. The thing is, other than looking to what the word Nazi is short for they really don't present evidence that Hitler did not support private ownership, for example. Also, monarchies are governments that have exerted complete control over its subjects (not citizens) and property. The monarch is the state. But they are not liberal forms of government but rather right wing forms of government.

GsdAdmin I know socialism and its definition by heart. I do not need Google for it. And yes I use Google   sometimes and when I do I always give a credit.

@Noitsyou:

TLTR or respond to all the rambling I'll say one thing. You lie about me worshiping Ayn Rand I worsip only a God and  I do like Ayan Rand writings. Her personal life is not important to me.

@ GSDadmin:

  Hitler was socialist you can deny it all day long but that will not make it true. his party was called National Socialist  German Worker's party. . and in principle he was socialist and that pisses you and other Democrats off and tat is why they make great somersaults to deny it.

 Let see what hitler said about Socialism . it is easy to Google this one out. 

Hitler's quotes:
1:“I have learned a great deal from Marxism” … “as I do not hesitate to admit”
2:. [My task is to] “convert the German volk (people) to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists”
3. “If we are socialists, then we must definitely be anti-semites – and the opposite, in that case, is Materialism and Mammonism, which we seek to oppose.” “How, as a socialist, can you not be an anti-semite?”
4. We must “find and travel the road from individualism to socialism without revolution”.
5: “Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.”

Hitler’s idea of national unity which is fascism was to take socialism directly to the people. He wanted socialism to not just be about nationalizing industry, but nationalizing the people themselves. nationalizing is what socialists do. it is process of at first controlling and later on confiscating means of production, transportation , services and private property. Hitler, same as democrats, believed that socialism and statism and nanny state was the solution of all society’s ills.

6. “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions” 1927

Well this one is quite an obvious quote. Hitler stated in no uncertain words that he as a socialist and as all socialist he was an enemy of capitalism.How much do I gear democrats taxing the rich and bitching about corporations.

7. “What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish we shall be in a position to achieve.”
Hitler was national socialist where Marxists are international socialists . He learned from them but since he was nationalist and against intrnational communism - cominterm he fought against them that gave to todays liberal false notion that since he hated marxists that he was not leftist socialist. However that not so.

Also Hitler publicly attacked Marxism, because of his war against the hated Soviet Union, but privately he always admitted that he was at heart a left-winger. He once said to Otto Wagener that the problem with the politicians of the Weimar Republic was that they “had never even read Marx.” He also talked against german communists since he believed that the problem with German Communists wastheir meekness and that they were just theoreticians . He said aboth German communists “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun.” Hitler   plainly stated that “the whole of National Socialism” was based on Marx.






 

The completion of the 'fundamental transformation of America' , as implemented by the current destroyer in chief. If hitlery gets to the wh, you might be saying buh bye to this ot blog as you know it....she will add to this destruction.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/17/internet-two-months-left-obama-gives-control-dictators/