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by yogidog on 02 June 2015 - 07:06
the teddy looks a little worse for where .People talk about been pack leader when dog are out.These are together and under control as it seems Kitkats thats what i like to see. you seem to know what your doing and definitely know your dogs an other postive when dealing with a pack .As for a missing patch of grass you people want to cop what do you expect when a pack of dogs are running in the same area dog are in grate condition .i personnel pen my dogs because its the law to have trained dogs either inside or pened.I have 2 males living in the house fullly trained best of pals and the others in and out of the house daily. All the best with your pack jealous members who think their pack leaders because their dogs sit or heel when told to what a joke

by susie on 02 June 2015 - 08:06
What´s going on here?
I love to see a healthy pack of dogs running free, I love to see dogs living like they were meant to live, be it Kit´s dogs or VK´s dogs.
A lot of dogs don´t have the choice...
Kit, VK was talking about his area, not about you, might have been an unlucky remark, but he simply wrote about his own experiences
Jen tried to explain, not to bash you ( Worn down to bare dirt or perhaps that's a shaded area under large large trees that never has any grass??? )
Dogs lived in packs for hundreds and thousands of years, I think it´s us who lost the sense for nature.
OT, but I never heard about horses living in a house, VK, now your horse needs to learn how to play fetch with your dogs
by vk4gsd on 02 June 2015 - 09:06
Def a wanna be house horse, she cant understand why the dogs are allowed inside and I kick her wide ass out. Gets real pushy. I never heard of marker training dogs until I was an old man and I never heard of marker training horses until I was even older. Anything you can teach a dog you can teach a horse and then some, yes even attack a person on command.

by kitkat3478 on 02 June 2015 - 10:06
i don't know kitkat or her dogs and it may be a northern hemisphere thing but around here seeing dogs in an area worn down to bare dirt is a red flag that would get you reported for a closer look by animal control.
not an accusation but just saying that is a warning sign here.
Well, I don t believe I misunderstood anything by the remarks of BOTH...this is not the first snide remark from either, and
I usually let that nonsense slide off my back, but ya know, I TOTALLY RESENT the implications by both. About an area in my yard, and there is more than one, "IS A RED FLAG" "A WARNING SIGN"...
There are very few people here that actually know me, there are a lot of people I really like and respect here,
But there are also people that don t know me. I send a great deal of people here in my effort to educate the average person, about the breed. And to try to help educate on the differences in pedirees, and I DO try to promote training with my dogs.
I ve had more than one person ask me WHY would come here....and, to be honest, not everyone here is very nice to newbies...Hell..ms Molly called social services on me about my mother for christ sakes a few years ago....
I do live my dogs and I care for them better than a lot of people care for their kids.
People are totally dumb founded when they come to my house as to how well behaved my dogs are...all together, in a pack.
If i was out of line, i m sorry, but, anyone bored go gack thru some posts and you will see exactly why I got bent out of shape....if you really wonder about my remarks, message me...i can point the insultuous inuendos out...a few that i talk to know exactly what i am referencing.
I am very proud of my dogs, and very proud of how far I have come with them...a lot is 'despite' some of the people here.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but there is no need to try to be vicious about others opinions or 'way of doing things'.
I do things differently than most people who breed German Shepherds. This ain t my job, raising dogs. It is my desire.
This was started by the OP , I am sure to share their good fortune in having a great pack of dogs. I joined in to show off mine too. I have a pack of dogs, and it isn t a six pack either.
I am over joyed with the quality of life I can provide my dogs. I get so much joy out of them in return.
While those that can t have their dogs live together, for what ever reasons, should not criticize those that can.
Some really don t know their dogs, or the breed. These dogs love each other, and they have themselves a grand old time. They spend hours, grooming each other, chasing round the house and yard , and even tho they have each other, each and everyone of them will stop whatever they are doing to be with me.
I m amazed myself sometimes how good they are.
I won t even sell someone a puppy unless they come to my house to get it. I won t ship a pup, in case it ever needs me thru it s life. It would be devastating to send a pup across the country and than not be able to get it home if it needed to come back, because they can always come back.
So, sorry if I list grip with them comments but....you don t know what my dogs mean to me.
Now, I m putting some pack pics with grass...i do have a very grassy yard, f(you can usually find my horse in it too) flower gardens, horses and my dogs.
Notice in my pics, you ain t seeing scarred up dogs from fighting either...they do the same kind of griping with each other as i do my family members.
(I do have several different bloodlines also)

by kitkat3478 on 02 June 2015 - 10:06
This is them in the Ruckus Room...i added a room just for them in the winter...the papers on the floor only cause the snow was coming in with them.
by Blitzen on 02 June 2015 - 11:06
Kudos to those who have dogs that can run in a pack. You have my genuine respect. Having come from a breed that isn't generally a great idea unless their attention is focused on pulling a sledge, and having been bitten very badly breaking up a few fights. I am now gun shy and would never have the intestinal fortitude to try more that 3 adults together.
One question, how do you prevent accidental matings if all these dogs are intact? . Not directing that question to anyone specific or saying it happens, so please don't go there. I'm just just asking how you make sure it doesn't. All the male dogs I have owned have never missed the opportunity to try to procreate and the bitches never objected .

by Hundmutter on 02 June 2015 - 12:06
Ah, well in my case all the boys and some of the girls were neutered. So
I didn't have the sex factor to worry about either. The most I had running
together at one time was the 13, I think - which meant #14 was not there,
'cos at that stage we could not trust him with his brother. That was later
resolved, but by the time I could exercise them together, others had died
so the overall number was smaller. You can run multiple dogs together
of any breed(s) provided that you have: control; knowledge; safe space.
I would not have dreamed to try to take our lot outside the estate in more
than a pair, and rarely more than one at a time - just as with walking my
mentor's dogs in London I never took more than 2 out together - because
it isn't always your own that start trouble ...
by Blitzen on 02 June 2015 - 12:06
"You can run multiple dogs together of any breed(s) provided that you have: control; knowledge; safe space."
I dunno about that .

by vtgsd on 02 June 2015 - 13:06
Wow, I can't believe the comments here on the first page. If your dogs are trained and proofed in those situations and your dogs RESPECT you as leader I don't see why you can't enjoy your dogs together!
Our dogs don't run after wild game off leash with no collars at all. I tell them no or ask them to down. Females in heat are ALWAYS separated from the other dogs since this is when fights most always erupt. I have a pair that I know would love to kill each other so they're not left loose alone, as long as I'm present it's not a problem.... Control is extremely important or our dogs would be shot by a hunter no doubt! WE DO NOT ALLOW youngsters or untrained dogs to run free, they must earn the privileged of being loose with the pack. This happens between 8 - 18 months of age, until then they're on a long line with me.
Dog with the leash on is learning to live with her new pack (photo taken yesterday).
by joanro on 02 June 2015 - 14:06
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