overagressive dominant pup - Page 3

Here is what i said; "...some people complain because the gsd is loosing it's character, because people are soft, and then complain about strong character. "

This is how it was taken out of context in order to call the comment "inane"; "As for the inane  comment on GS  ,"loosing it's character because people are soft, and then complain about strong character." This is exactly the reason why this is happening.". Not anwhere close to what
l said. Your sycophants are waiting on you. :-)
BTW, strong character is a good thing and not the same as what you label "too tough to handle" except by people from bygone era.

Let this unnessary back and forth stop  I will delete any further

Over aggressive? I did not know there was such a thing. :)

 

Paul

Since it got totally off track anyway, I don't feel toooooo guilty asking Hexe............did I take that shot or Hallix? I thought Hallix took the werewolf shot, though I had a few of her like that. I thought it was Jaxson she was making that face toward...I sure could be wrong. Nice little trip down memory lane. She was so special. Still think about her often. RIP, amazing girl. 

Jenni, I'm not sure who took the picture...but that's the pic Hallix has as her avatar. It makes me smile whenever I see it, because there's just SO much fury in her expression--there is no question but that she was NOT having her sibling's nonsense for another millisecond.

Paul, there is such a thing as over-aggressive...I remember seeing a litter of Malinois pups, a number of years ago, when their breeder brought them out to a SchH club training session for general socialization and to do some puppy work after everyone else's dogs had been worked and put back up. I don't recall their age, but I know they weren't any older than 14 weeks...anyway, every one of these pups would snarl and snap at anyone who tried to interact with them, save for the breeder, and these pups weren't playing--they were dead serious, and if the warning displays didn't put you off and you persisted in trying to engage them in a friendly way those little suckers would for real bite you.  If I hadn't known better, I'd have thought these were a litter of feral pups that had been trapped and were being exposed to people for the first time--and this was an excellent breeder that knows his craft and his breed, so it's not as if there's any chance the pups weren't being handled regularly from birth onward, either.

Although the breeder was very, very careful about who he placed these pups with, last I'd heard most of the litter ended up being euthanized while still young adults because they were dangerous to their own handlers. I'm not sure, but IIRC one of the members here, judron, took one of the pups, and though he worked her for at least a year or more, he eventually placed her with someone in law enforcement because he didn't trust her around his family. Hopefully he's reading this and can correct me if my memory is faulty on this.

Another one of the pups went to a veterinarian who was very familiar with personal protection dogs, and specifically wanted a dog that took no prisoners because she did a lot of late night farm calls where there were a lot of shady characters around [I think she was an equine vet who did a lot of Thoroughbred farms and track visits]. Things went well for a couple of years, until the dog tore the vet up pretty badly when she went to get back in her vehicle after finishing up with a call. That dog was put down shortly thereafter.

THAT is what I'd consider to be 'overaggresive' puppies which matured into overly aggressive dogs; something about the combination of the sire's and the dam's genetics resulted in sort of 'toxic' progeny, even though neither parent had produced such before when paired with other dogs and bitches.  Fortunately, those types of dogs rarely occur. 

Hexe

I would take a couple of those.

Paul, seriously, this litter really was not right in the head from the jump. The breeder saw it, too, and never repeated that breeding for that reason. I suppose if what you're looking for is something that you'll never need to put your hands on for any reason, that will take down anything that enter its territory and that you have to feed & water from behind a sturdy fence, then they would be just what you're looking for...but that kind of placement is even less common than that type of litter.

Trust, I've got you tucked into my mental Rolodex should I come across a dog or dogs of that stripe that need careful placement...you'd be the first to hear of it.

And if my saying 'cute little demon' ticked anyone off, sorry. I know when I'm over my head, & would never attempt a pup of this caliber, especially now. It wouldn't be fair to the pup! However, I enjoy living vicariously through the postings of the elite on this board, & I am very interested in watching this pup develope & see where his handlers take him. He is adorable, in the same way wolf cubs are. Doesn't mean I'd go crawling into their den, lol!

jackie harris

Hexe

I have had a few that were not right in the head, but I have seen many a dog trainer not to be able to handle that kind of dog I like for myself. I really love to work and train the extreme. But that being said getting dog bit hurts more then it used too. LOL

I hear you on the dog bites hurting more than they used to, Paul. It takes a lot more effort on my part to not reflexively pull away from a bite than I used to have to put into it these days. I can still do it, but it takes some teeth-gritting now. Fortunately I don't find myself in many situations where I'll get bit...not teching in a vet practice any longer not only brought me better pay & benefits, it also cut waaay down on the bites & clawings.