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by joanro on 02 July 2014 - 17:07
Schgsdman, what'd you say about jumping to conclusions? You just overreacted to a sarcastic remark.
Carry on.

by GSD Admin on 02 July 2014 - 17:07
Don't forget MRIs and CAT scans that do strange things to people not to mention X-rays. What the hell is this world coming to? So many conspiracies and whacked out non-sense floating around in cyberspace it all must be true it is on the net.
OP,
I am not sure how far along your dog is (I got lost in the secret abortions and autism non-sense) but it sounds like she is getting close to time for an xray and I would wait until she is far enough along to see how many pups she has. Good luck and keep us informed on how this turns out.
by joanro on 02 July 2014 - 17:07
bzcz, how's your blood pressure holding up?
Just to help you thro your reading deficit, the entire post certainly was not meant as sarcasm, only "secret abortion device" was. I didn't realize there are people simple minded enough to take that remark seriously....but obviously you are. The rest of my post is meant as stated. I really didn't intend to confuse you and upset you so.

by susie on 02 July 2014 - 17:07
Joanro, if I remember right, the study was made at Yale University by Pasko Ratic.
He used mice ( ! ) during their last 3 (!) days of pregnancy, and they were ultrasounded for 30 ( !!! ) minutes... - no real life scenario...
There are double-ultrsounds ( don´t know the correct english word for it..) but they are used only for human embryos in case of heart defects - but even these technics aren´t able to heat the amniotic fluids, a mother with fever is more dangerous.
I don´t know about doubles for dogs, but I might be wrong...
Next the embryo is not able to hear a "sound", only the repetition of the sound ( pulsar ) MIGHT be hearable as a short high sound for the embryo
Certainly people are able to misuse this proceeding, but this would be MISUSE with criminal intent, otherwise it´s impossible.
It´s like everywhere and with everything - used in the correct context it´s a benefit for mankind, used in the wrong context it´s the devil...
by bzcz on 02 July 2014 - 17:07
Fine. Laughing all day is a great way to keep it low. Do I need to site a source for that for you too?
by schgsdman on 02 July 2014 - 17:07
I'm laughing my ass off, I don't know about you. No overreaction, just absolutely dumbfounded by the idiocracy of some people, Freaking hilarious. Thanks though for the really good laugh
by bzcz on 02 July 2014 - 17:07
And the article Joanro cites is 8 years old and full of the author taking a study and then applying it to ultrasound which was never part of the cited study. Complete twist and misrepresentation of the facts to form a conclusion that was never part of the study.
Good at Science yeah sure.
by joanro on 02 July 2014 - 18:07
Schgsdman, Goodgood goood.
Susie, I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
Bzcz, no, but you may need one to confirm that what you are experiencing is real, and can be verified according to the web. So, go for broke, get as many exposures as you deem necessary.
by schgsdman on 02 July 2014 - 18:07
You know what else can be verified according to the web? ANYTHING.... Because it's not filled with bullshit or anything.

by susie on 02 July 2014 - 18:07
We are talking about "the sound and heat of ultrasound", aren´t we?
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