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by Joewulf on 24 February 2014 - 19:02
“and for the outcross believers, what if we outcrossed every GSD breeding, how man generations could we do that till every GSD in the world will carry the same genepackage, and with that every genetic disorder in the breed and than what , outcros them to other breeds , so we can also throw those breeds in the melting pot, and we will end up with one breed of dogs looking like all and nothing and carrying all possible genetic problems you can think of, and are able to produce all possible diseases ever found in every breed like russian roulette”
Oh yeah, because allowing outcrossing means that you are mandated and obliged to do it. Please, don't. What we are talking here is about having better an updated breeding practices (not just doing the same with better technology). Also, in regards to outcrossing,is not what you imply, we are talking about setting up a protocol that allows breeders (the ones that are willing to use it) to bring in new blood in a controlled manner. Having an appendix registry for the outcrosses, putting a limit of outcrossings per gerneration per region, and asking for a specific number generations (like 3) before the offspring can be part of the main registry and population. So don’t start with strawman fallacies.
Oh yeah, because allowing outcrossing means that you are mandated and obliged to do it. Please, don't. What we are talking here is about having better an updated breeding practices (not just doing the same with better technology). Also, in regards to outcrossing,is not what you imply, we are talking about setting up a protocol that allows breeders (the ones that are willing to use it) to bring in new blood in a controlled manner. Having an appendix registry for the outcrosses, putting a limit of outcrossings per gerneration per region, and asking for a specific number generations (like 3) before the offspring can be part of the main registry and population. So don’t start with strawman fallacies.
by duke1965 on 24 February 2014 - 21:02
so if im reading correct you are setting up discussion to push people towards the idea to breed German shepherds( I assume) with open studbook and allowing them to breed them with other breeds, is the underlaying thought really to bring in different genes for health reasons or really to bring in qualities in the breed some say they are missing,
Im assuming the breed to outcross will be a belgium working breed, who have many of the same genetic problems the GSD have and some more
please share who "WE " are and what organization is planning to open the studbooks, would make interesting reading
Im assuming the breed to outcross will be a belgium working breed, who have many of the same genetic problems the GSD have and some more
please share who "WE " are and what organization is planning to open the studbooks, would make interesting reading
by duke1965 on 26 February 2014 - 09:02
joewulf, you are aware of the possabilities of open studbook in belgium for a long time ??
do you know of any healthier or better dogs in any breed as a result of that ?
do you know of any healthier or better dogs in any breed as a result of that ?
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