Bi-color or not? - Page 3

Lunastar, in what breed? Melanisitc b&t's do not have all have tan all under their bellies like a saddle back. 

This bicolor thing is one of those stupid arguments that will never be agreed on or understood by most. It's fun but pointless. What do the Germans call bicolor? (rhetorical...I know the answer)

Personally...if a dog has anything but TINY eyebrows on the face, or MAYBE teeny cheek marks,  I'm calling that dog a black and tan. Hell, I'm about to call them all black and tans rather than go through yet another "Is he bicolor?" thread, LOL. 

I have a litter right now that has 3 dark b&t's and people refer to them as bicolors and I go off about it because I don't want someone buying them thinking they're going to be bicolor and look like their grandma and be all disappointed when they don't! They're going to be dark black and tan/red and one will likely be melanistic black and tan, but I will be shocked if even the one ends up bicolor. They have WAY too much tan already to be bi. I'm guessing they'll look like Quanto Jipo-Me. 

Here's a bicolor puppy, out of a bicolor dam and a black sire. See the difference in the chest markings and rear inside of leg? Pup is 11 weeks, btw, in pic.


Hutchins, you'll post back, won't you? There is Troll, etc. back there, and I've had bi's out of similar breedings. While improbable, it's not impossible that he'll end up bi. 

Yes I will continue to post pics of him as he gets older.  Considering his grandsire is Javir and he is known to produce bi-colors and his mom has produced bicolors, I would think there is a possibility he will turn out to be a bi-color. But as of right now, its up in the air with me what I would consider him.  Like I said before, his color doesn't matter to me. Its the total package I like.

Bi-Color. Sorry, but he is solid black with tan points so that is a bi-color. A heavy black blanket colored GSD would have still have tan all under his belly like a normal saddle back would.

Black and tans change as they get older and the tan "creeps" or spread and the black areas get smaller. So, yeah, he looks like a bicolor right now, but what will he look like at 2 years?  The pup below had toemarks at 9 weeks.



See the tan on her cheeks? That was the biggest difference between her and her bicolor brother. The small amount of tan behind/below the ear is another big indicator for my pups.


 

This is what a tan/fawn and black blanket colored GSD looks like: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=479832-orex-vom-fuchsstein
The dog pictured still has tan running all under him from under his chin, chest, belly, rear, and even the underside of his tail. And isn't a blanketed GSD a Melanisitc black and tan, cause I could swear it was.
 And even though she is registered as black, thanks to her breeder, my own female GSD Sasha is a Melanisitc bi-color: a http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=1845819-custos-dark-lady-sasha
She appears solid black at first glance but if you look at her paws you can see tan peeking out from between her toes, and the back of her legs in the photo you can see the tan on her. Under her tail also tan, which is how you tell she is not a solid black as if she was she would have noting but black there.
 

Lunastar, your girl's mother is very closely related to my girl's sire. What is your girl like temperamet and drives wise?