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Two Moons

by Two Moons on 11 December 2013 - 17:12

gouda,
your no better than anyone else, you know your own dark secrets, calling others names won't change the burden you carry.
This crusade your on won't change anything either.
You could stand a good look inside too.

Try it sometime, instead of this fraud you hide behind.

Moons.

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 11 December 2013 - 18:12

 "...if they had thaughts about someone else
while having sex with their own spouse.."

Little Freudian slip there buddy, LOL.  That's not the question I asked you, not at all.  You amped it up, you little devil you.  Now I do really know the way your mind works.  Scary.

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 11 December 2013 - 18:12

Gouda, you're nothing but a hypocrite.  You want people here, on a forum, to bare their eternal souls to you, yet the thought of sex sends you running and ashamed.  Pretty amazing feat of hypocrisy, that.

Shtal

by Shtal on 14 December 2013 - 01:12

I want to address something a bit about Antony Flew in those two videos that I posted in the first page of this thread: About Interesting and fascinating things been discovered in literary the last 50 years is about our DNA….In 50 years what been discovered just blown scientists minds. And what I want to address is this question, that we know that this DNA information there and we know there is alphabet, like really four different bases within DNA molecules, like four letters is like a four letter alphabet(s) and information contain within those. And the information within DNA obeys the various laws information science. In fact information science is something that being work on a great deal; in the beginning was information. I think it is absolute death-blow to evolution world view……..Information science; Information is like another entity other than matter and energy, is non-material entity. The fundamental quantity information is a non-material entity; it’s not a property of matter so pure material processes are fundamental precluded of sources information or in other words matter doesn’t give rise to information by itself. Here is a good example you can have information on “matter” like a CD-compact disc, you can get a CD-compact disk and put information on-it. Let suppose we have a blank-CD disc and we have another CD-disk that was made out it - put a copy of Microsoft windows software for example, if it’s being imprinted – burned onto CD and we put the two discs on chemical balances, what would be differences in mass between the two CD-discs, how heavy is the information Microsoft windows and the answer it’s none at all - because its information. And what I am trying to say or my main point is if we have several compact blank CD’s or DVD’s discs and we leave them on our desk for whole day and maybe one of them will have magically produced a copy of Microsoft windows on itself, just develop from nothing; because that’s basically the theory of evolution saying. It saying information in DNA has risen by chance from nothing. So literary matter gave rise to information which is not made out of matter, good example here, “there is less information” in copy of Microsoft windows than there is in DNA. So the chances one of these blank-CD or DVD discs that is on our desk getting a copy of Microsoft windows on itself is a lot greater than the chances DNA forming by itself. The truth is information doesn’t appear by chance, that doesn’t happen, so how does it get on it like on a CD-disk??? You see information requires intelligent(s) it does needed to be programmed to program things from scratch, again or to have a copying program that would be able to put that on, so it needs to be some input from you, that needs to be intelligent behind the information. So I believe Antony Flew realized about when evolution theory suggested that when the earth was hot 4.6 billion years ago some blank CD’s could have been left then and little lasers would come out from the mud and actually imprinted information there, but of course it requires millions of years for that to happened, people just have to have a better imaginations and I think Antony Flew changed his position and said no more imaginations in evolution and became believer in God.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 14 December 2013 - 01:12

Well good for him,
One more sheep to the flock.

You'll never understand it Shtal, give it a rest.
 

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 14 December 2013 - 01:12

Shtal, did you do the math?  What was your answer?  Did you think I'd forget, just because you disappear for a few days, while the thread sinks below?  No, I didn't forget, what's your answer?

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 14 December 2013 - 01:12

Shtal, according to your "theory" above, God needed a programmer.  Who programmed God?

Shtal

by Shtal on 15 December 2013 - 04:12

GSDtravels wrote: Shtal, did you do the math?  What was your answer? God needed a programmer. Who programmed God?


I think you really aren’t looking for an answer; you want to avoid things even though you may sound little bit pure though to begin with. I think you actually avoiding a questions that you brought forth to my attention because you really don’t want to talk about Christianity and God. But now your excuse is who made GOD??? Aha, aha I got you now, sort of mocking attitude. I think the question itself “who made GOD” is a terrible question. It shows that anybody asks that has wrong understanding “who God is” The idea of God being made means he is NOT God, so you don’t call him God. So the very question itself is to be honest is silly question but yet people think it is so intelligent; if the design demands the designer then who design the designer? It just blows my mind how people can ask this question and not see the problem with it, but it does, I do realize that atheists are willingly ignorant and they are deceived….And so, the problem with the very question is assumes God had a maker, so the question is a terrible question; linguistically it doesn’t make sense, you know the “very sounds” that we make with our throats and we say the word GOD is in English, the word that has been developed to describe the creator. That’s what the word is for - it means the one who created everything, it was there before all things, that is the whole point of the word. So actually even on the linguistically level it doesn’t make sense to ask who made GOD; it is almost equivalent to say why ducks are green??? lol that question really doesn’t make any sense. But yet people promoted as some great intellectual way to get rid of idea of God. But let me ask you something what’s your other choice??? I mean if you take God out of picture you left with nothing, you left with matter created it-self, you left with giving God like properties to either time, space or matter, something has to act like God out there and you do all this just to avoid the truth the Bible says you already know him in your heart. Bible says you know that God is God and you suppress that truth in unrighteousness, stop suppressing the truth, recognize and realize, God did not had a maker, God did not had a creator, God did not had a designer, God is eternal. Matter of fact Bible talks about that God is eternal. (KJV Psalm 90 verse 2) It says: Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. You don’t put time on God, he is not locked inside the time like we are today, and he was not created. And now if we look in KJV Genesis Chapter 21 verse 33 It says: And Abraham planted a grove in Beersheba, and called there on the name of the LORD, the everlasting God. And now KJV first Timothy 1:17 it says: Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. And you have to realize God claims himself, he tells himself he is eternal, he had no beginning and he has no ending. Now if we go back to Bible again: Bible starts, saying in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth….Why does the Bible start that way, because God is the most important focus for our thinking and for us understanding. Without God you can’t know anything at all, it would be impossible even have knowledge without God. The truth is God does not have a maker, you know you have to have God from the very beginning to get anywhere, nothing happens without God. The logic if you say who made God then who ever made God is the God of that God and then you may have to ask who made that God in which case it must be another God who made that God, so then we may see after that who made that God and you get into infinite progression, it’s much more logical to say everything was made by infinite God.  (In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us. In him was life; and the life was the light of men).
 

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 15 December 2013 - 08:12

Wow Shtal, that elementary string is really a pathetic way of avoiding the answer to a question that you brought to the table.

You will not change the subject once again until you answer the question.





DID YOU DO THE MATH?
 

by vk4gsd on 15 December 2013 - 21:12

forgive me for being sexist but shtal i'm embarrassed for you that you get completely owned by a women everytime you open yr stupid mouth.



DO THE MATH SHATL, DO THE MATH


bwahahaha





 


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