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by Shtal on 15 September 2013 - 17:09
Carlin wrote: Shtal - for me, the -ist in "creationist" and "evolutionist" is what gives me pause, as it implies an absolute. From the theological standpoint.
I respect your believes, but I would like say something here if you don't mind of course: I think the evidence for creation would be the absolute impossibility of the contrary, if we were walking on the street and we saw a swimming pool in somebody(s) backyard and so you see waves splashing out the top little bit and I said to you Carlin, I think that pool only has water in the top-foot and the rest is air underneath; without even going to exam in it, you would say that is silly, it is impossible that there will not be water all the way to the bottom, that is the nature of things…It is impossible that there not be a designer, everything is just so incredibly complex, there had to be a creator. Another example: If you are walking through the forest and you saw painting hanging on the tree, you automatically conclude there was a painter, even if you don’t see any footprints and you don’t see the person who made it, there had to be a painter…And if you are walking through the woods and you find a large house-building, you don’t see any footprints and you don’t see any workers/people, you would still conclude there was a builder, and if you see a creation you would conclude there was a creator. So I think few things, I would say the design in nature is impossible to explain without designer and idea of creation is true because of the impossibility of the contrary, it is impossible that there not be a creator for something like this.
I respect your believes, but I would like say something here if you don't mind of course: I think the evidence for creation would be the absolute impossibility of the contrary, if we were walking on the street and we saw a swimming pool in somebody(s) backyard and so you see waves splashing out the top little bit and I said to you Carlin, I think that pool only has water in the top-foot and the rest is air underneath; without even going to exam in it, you would say that is silly, it is impossible that there will not be water all the way to the bottom, that is the nature of things…It is impossible that there not be a designer, everything is just so incredibly complex, there had to be a creator. Another example: If you are walking through the forest and you saw painting hanging on the tree, you automatically conclude there was a painter, even if you don’t see any footprints and you don’t see the person who made it, there had to be a painter…And if you are walking through the woods and you find a large house-building, you don’t see any footprints and you don’t see any workers/people, you would still conclude there was a builder, and if you see a creation you would conclude there was a creator. So I think few things, I would say the design in nature is impossible to explain without designer and idea of creation is true because of the impossibility of the contrary, it is impossible that there not be a creator for something like this.
by Two Moons on 15 September 2013 - 21:09
I've never seen a gods footprint or a painting hanging in the forest.
Nature was perfect long before man arrived, and much longer than man's god's were created.
Shtal,
if this is your basis for believing in a creator there is no use trying to explain anything to you.
Your post is........ child like.
Nature was perfect long before man arrived, and much longer than man's god's were created.
Shtal,
if this is your basis for believing in a creator there is no use trying to explain anything to you.
Your post is........ child like.
by Two Moons on 15 September 2013 - 21:09
A deal with the devil,
Moons.
Moons.
by vk4gsd on 15 September 2013 - 22:09
shtal's science -
dirt man and rib women eat magic apple from magic tree cos talking snake told them to....and we all became sinners because of it.....
shtal is locked in a loop and does not want to be disturbed. i apologize if i have ever offended you shtal. we are what we are and each to his own. i truly have no ill feeling toward you and will stop commenting on yr posts as no good can come of it.
good luck and i sincerely wish you well on yr journey.
peace
dirt man and rib women eat magic apple from magic tree cos talking snake told them to....and we all became sinners because of it.....
shtal is locked in a loop and does not want to be disturbed. i apologize if i have ever offended you shtal. we are what we are and each to his own. i truly have no ill feeling toward you and will stop commenting on yr posts as no good can come of it.
good luck and i sincerely wish you well on yr journey.
peace
by Shtal on 15 September 2013 - 22:09
Okay vk4, but my interpretation of that verse is not the same as yours. God calling satan snake, not necessarily actually talking snake, if you care I can back it up with scriptures, otherwise peace.
by vk4gsd on 15 September 2013 - 22:09
no need, but thanks for the offer, glad you accepted my apology.
by Two Moons on 15 September 2013 - 22:09
GOD PLEASE....NO MORE SCRIPTURES.....
by ggturner on 15 September 2013 - 23:09
by ggturner on 15 September 2013 - 23:09
Yet another scientist/mathematician who is a believer. And, BTW both Dr. Collins and Dr. Lennox are "published."
by Two Moons on 16 September 2013 - 00:09
GOD PLEASE...NO MORE LAME VIDEOS.
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