Structure of the GSD - Beneficial or Detrimental? - Page 3

and still too hurt and defensive to get the point.

and don't infer that you want to be rude and hint at your meaning. It's chicken shit.  Just say it.  You think it's better to try and be sly and drop hints at what you mean?  have the "balls" to say it :)

to get back to the french ring question, there are several GSD's who can hold their own in FR, biggest problem is indeed if they are very overangulated they don't last very long because of the jumps, just as in belgium or mondioring.
​but i have seen GSD take the 2.40 high jump and the 4meter long jump at the age of 8 but as far as i know?and he's owner/handler/breeder told me he was quite exeptional, he never had any special treatment/surgery were most GSD already had to retire at that age

Don't be putting words in my mouth.  They should be able to compete just fine.  Of course, any larger dog will be at a slight disadvantage in smaller spaces.  If your goal is to win a nationals, you'll probably have better luck with a different breed, but to say their conformation will prohibit them from competing??
Depends on what you mean by "competing".  Generally I compete to win, so in that case, we're talking a lot more than a "slight disadvantage".  If by "competing" you mean "participating", then yes, GSDs are fine.  They are not too big for flyball (I know someone who had a Great Dane that ran faster than one of my GSDs), not hard to train because they generally have very good handler focus and aren't distracted by everything else, no reason a GSD can't learn flyball and participate.

ok, so their conformation won't keep them from participating we'll use your word instead.  does it really change anything?  so, what is your breed you've taken nationals with?  I can't believe you beat thousands and thousands of other handlers that are merely participating and not competing :)  kind of like Highlander....There can be only ONE :)  and I find it even more amazing a dane beat your GSD and every other dog in the nation, or did you have another gsd that was faster than that dane as well and he only beat one of your GSD's?  maybe you even have owned a gsd that has beaten a lot of other dogs like BC's and other breeds?? maybe I could even find videos of them on the internet?

I'm fairly certain there's more than a couple GSD's that have beaten quite a few dogs in flyball.  but anyway.  I don't even know what point you're trying to make anymore other than to be right about something.  
 

No actually I was going to use "Boll***s" but there may be
children reading !!!  And it may upset the Admins.


So let me get this straight - because I don't agree with your
perspective, I have to be "hurt and defensive" ? (Or suffering
PMS ? )  I can't just be disagreeing with you ?  If I posted some
statement you didn't agree with, does that automatically mean
if you wanted to say you did not agree with me and wished to
point out the opposing view,  that you too would be "hurt" or
"offended" ?   [  Ditto my earlier expletive.]  That assumption
of yours makes me far more upset than the topic at hand, I assure
you !

As I already said earlier, people in Flyball ARE breeding for smaller
Collies deliberately;  and they ARE likely to reject GSDs from serious
Teams on the grounds of size, stride and "longer than high" shape.
Fact.  Try talking to some people who actually do the sport - it isn't
compulsory to join in.   They do consider abilities relevant to better
Flyball participation in their breedings, just as much as GSD breeders
try to improve on temperaments suitable for manwork / tracking etc,  
and for full drives and grip.  Get over yourself.  If you still think I am
missing some point in your "mystique", SPELL IT OUT instead of doing
the "I know what I'm talking about and so should you unless you're
stupid / at the wrong point in the month" routine.

I had no idea you were a woman, I would have said you were pms'ing if your name was george :)

your ranting isn't doing you any favors and making my point.

my message is hardlly mysterious, it was rather clear.  The only thing that muddied it was somebody decided play their victim role again because they don't understand a thing about bitework.  

But go on, find something in this post to be offended by too.  It's par for the course.

  



 

Getting back to the OP,  Konotashi it's really no loss that a GSD
might not be the best breed to do competitive Flyball.  If you want
to do that - as a leisure activity - and can find a Club or Team that
don't regard 'winning at all costs' as their only reason for existance,
then join and have fun.  Just don't be surprised if A your GSD is 
slower over the course than the others' Collies/ Whippets/ Crossbreeds
etc;  and B there is a bit of good natured teasing !  I wouldn't dare to
suggest there are any ppl who would be downright rude to you & your dog !

As far as I am aware about FR, on the other hand, I can see no reason
why choosing a GSD wouldn't be suitable, except in so far as those
handlers who are pro-Mali will always be pro-Mali about IPO & Schutzhund,
or anything involving that range of disciplines.  Depends on how well you
train, how good your dog is, and who you run up against on the day ...
much as usual, really, as far as I can see  (from Results I've read, and
watching the odd round).  JMO.  Linda.

Hundmutter = dog mother = female. Right?

Right.          .

"Women" = plural, also Right ?


Oh, and GSDs "prohibited" from Flyball  -  mentioned by anyone
else ?  No I don't think so, he made that up too.

If I was him, I'd  stop digging !