Service dog requirement question - Page 3

I wondered why the guy was all up in arms in the first place. Shit happens as they say so why cause such a ruckus? Oh and dogs do not need to wear a service vest. It just makes it easier for the public to id them. And whether someone chooses to ask or not, If I were management, I would check this guy out. People are asked her all the time. I think the guy would be hard pressed to win a case if management asked for proof ESP SINCE the dog is showing signs of aggression.

Thanks Fawn great info you provided btw

Barb

There is no mandatory certification
A service dog is not required to wear a vest
Some people have invisible needs for service dogs
A service dog can be asked to be removed from a place due to aggression and or defecation/ marking as long as the handler is offered to conclude their visit without the dog.
They are not allowed to ask what medical conditions he has, only what tasks the service dog does for him.

This said, as an owner your grandmother has allowed her dog twice to be within contact distance and she also has responsibilies in having a dog in the building properly as well.


I have a service dog. I would never have mine in public without a vest on him to protect him. I would not allow someones little dog to come mess with my dog off leash while he is working. I to would ask the dog to be banned if this is a habit. I would not allow my dog to treat the dog aggressivly, but I would be very angry at an irrresponsible owner letting thier dog break rules coming up to my working dog. I am also for tougher service dog laws and am pushing for a certification prosess because of issues like this. I do not want to be treated badly in public because of the bad experiences people have had with fake or irresponsible handlers. If your grandmother is having trouble controlling her dog and his service dog is legitimate I am afraid she will be required to rehome it. The service dog was leashed and there is no requirement he not care that a dog is messing with him and he is not allowed to warn it. He did no injury correct? Many dogs that behave in public do not want a dog in their face barking at them especially when they are working.

GSD Newbie, if you'd read all the posts you'd have seen it wasn't quite
that simple (while normally you would be right):   This particular 'service'
dog had already 'nipped' the tenant's dog on a previous occasion;  and 
this time there are several witnesses that it was acting out by rearing n
roaring at the tenants dog.  No way is that 'behaving in public', surely ?

To the OP - wish you and your g/ma the best of luck with getting this
sorted out.
I really can't understand why the Service Dog's owner is so set on this
course;  if it had been HABITUAL that g/ma's dog had a go at his dog
everytime it visited the complex, that would be one thing.  But if these
circumstances are the whole truth of the matter, the service dog owner
has strangely little understanding of the bond between owner and dog,
and very little goodwill towards other ppl.

I do realize that all service dogs do not need to have a vest or other identifying features.  Another poster mentioned looking for information about registration on the vest so I just wanted to clarify that there was not a vest.

Thanks, I honestly don't know if we stand a chance if the guy really wants the dog out.  It just kills me that this is her home, he does not live there, and his dog is taking priority.  I just hope we can come to some sort of compromise - this little dog is everything to her.  :(

A Service Dog does not need any specific registration or identification, but the handler must be able to demonstrate that the dog performs tasks that mitigate a legal disability.  I believe you CAN ask what tasks the dog does (you CANNOT ask about the handler's disability, that will get you in deep doodoo).  One cannot simply call a dog a Service Dog and have it be so.  The person needs to have a documented legal disability and the dog must be trained in such a way that the use of the dog is necessary for that person to lead a normal life.

Also, ESAs (emotional support animals) are not Service Dogs.  They do generally have access in public housing and transportation but don't have full public access rights like a Service Dog.  A Therapy Dog is neither an ESA or SD, a Therapy Dog is a *pet* with therapy training and has no implied public access rights.

If the pet dog was under control how did the first "nip" incident happen? The service dog handler would have avoided the pet from the start not coming near it especially if he is aware of his dog not caring for other dogs which I will hazzard a guess as yes he is aware.  If a dog has had a confrontation with another dog, they dont just forget it. Instead of going after each other perhaps work with someone to solve the problem between these two dogs then they can both go about their business. The dog may live there, but in the owner's room. Common areas are not the dog's "home" That is like saying the side walk in front of someone's home belongs to thier dog just because their house ajoins it.

But that just supposes it IS a genuine service dog;  there seem to be
some areas of doubt here.  How often when Fawndallas and Vonissk
were running threds about the requirements for service dogs did it come
up that people were caught faking it, to get access to various buildings
and airplanes etc ?  The very minimum should be for those questions
about what the dog does to get asked.

Grandmothers story is that she only dropped the lead of her dog for
a moment;  if that's true, her pet is hardly habitually running loose around
the corridors of the retirement complex.

2 incidents of the dogs in contact, how many does it take to say somone is letting thier pet roam when they think it is safe?

Two, over two years ?

GSDNewbie, again, if you read through all of the posts prior to yours, you'll see that the first contact between the dogs was NOT when the OP's grandmother's dog was off-leash--reportedly, both dogs were leashed, and passing each other through a common passage-way.  That gave me reason to wonder about the legitimacy of the 'service dog' claim, as I would expect someone with a service dog to do as you describe,  making an above-and-beyond effort to avoid placing their animal within contact distance of any other animal regardless of the disposition of either the service dog or the other animal.  The fact that the 'service dog' owner seems to have as much of a beef about the fact that the OP's grandma's dog is a 'mongrel' as he does about the dog's behavior--since he makes a point of disparaging the dog on its ancestry in addition to it's behaviors--also gives me pause...that's just basic ignorant and obnoxious HUMAN behavior on his part, along with demanding the grandmom's dog be evicted.  I mean, really dude?  You don't even live there, and you're throwing your weight around? There's a lot of other options available to solve the problem before anyone should need to go to that level.