The sickness of voyeurism - Page 3

hexe,
I did sorta lump you ladies together in a way and I grant you are not all the same.

The Second Amendment makes no such distinction. (type of weapon)

Granted some citizens should not be allowed firearms, those laws are in place now.

Firing a shotgun off your balcony legally depends on your local laws, but firing a gun into the air is legally considered wanton endangerment in most places.

As for information, sorry if I don't believe everything the media or our appointed officials tell us.
That's not my fault.

If you are doing what you can that's good, again your not all the same.

I disagree about the past, in the past there were open news conferences where members of multiple media interests asked questions on live camera's.
In the old days if a news crew wanted to get into the shit for a story no one tried to stop them.
In the old days there was the printed word that had to stand scrutiny and pass muster, people were accountable for the written word, not today with the digital instant on your palm pilot new age information highway.

Your right Blitzen, we live in different worlds, that's obvious.



Moons.

Napolitano is entitled to his opinion, but claiming that the US Constitution is based upon Natural Law is in the same league as claiming it was founded 'as a Christian nation'.   Sorry, no sale.

Nice Cosa Nostra 'do, though. I'd never have guessed he was from Northern New Jersey if he hadn't mentioned it.

Ya, whateva you say ... it's just his opinion.

LOL

hexe,
is that what you came away with?

He's not talking about the Constitution, he's speaking only about the Second Amendment and my natural right to defend myself.

And this is not an opinion, it takes no interpretation, that is the intent of the Amendment.
Foreign or domestic.

You do remember the Revolutionary War do you not, they taught it in schools.

Moons, the founding of this country overall is not based on Natural Law, and generally speaking those who try to defend various legal principles by claiming it end up winding their way back to the US Constitution and even further yet, to the Declaration of Independence. So I figured I'd just cut to the chase. I do find it interesting, too, that someone would reference Natural Law to justify a citizen owning weapons designed to kill multiple individuals without reloading, under the guise of 'the right to defend yourself' is also on board with the idea that the government has the right to force women to carry a pregnancy to term.  Wouldn't Natural Law also indicate that everyone has the right make their own decisions regarding their bodies?

This discussion has gone far afield of the initial topic, and I only entered into the thread because I was curious as to why you were troubled by the sealing of the death certificates. I really don't care for Internet debates on topics such as religions, gun control, reproductive rights and the like, so I'll be bowing out now. I do appreciate your response regarding the original topic. however.

hexe,
I do find it interesting, too, that someone would reference Natural Law to justify a citizen owning weapons designed to kill multiple individuals without reloading, under the guise of 'the right to defend yourself' is also on board with the idea that the government has the right to force women to carry a pregnancy to term. Wouldn't Natural Law also indicate that everyone has the right make their own decisions regarding their bodies?

Weapons are weapons hexe.

And I would fight to defend the rights of women to make their own decisions regarding their own bodies.
But I ain't gonna get far with an old shotgun am I?

You still have the natural law thing in the wrong context.

The original topic was Beetree.....lol

So since you don't want to go further with this fine.

Moons.

" and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them "

-- Declaration of Independence

"Man has been subjected by his Creator to moral law, of which his feelings, or conscience are the evidence with which his Creator furnished him ... the moral duties which exist between individual and individual in a state of nature, accompany them into a state of society ... their Maker not having released them from those duties on their forming themselves into a nation."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"As there is a degree of depravity in mankind which requires a certain degree of circumspection and distrust, so there are other qualities in human nature which justify a certain portion of esteem and confidence."

--- James Madison

:o)