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by Psandokan on 24 November 2010 - 08:11
Yes
yesterday i have had a meeting with Mr. zum Felde.
He told me they will have a last meeting tomorrow and after that they will give a statement.
The chances for Branuschweig are very low and Ulm is not possible.
He told me that Mr. Grube will not run for SV Vice President in case oft this next week.
I will call him tomorrow again
Nice Regards
Sandokan
yesterday i have had a meeting with Mr. zum Felde.
He told me they will have a last meeting tomorrow and after that they will give a statement.
The chances for Branuschweig are very low and Ulm is not possible.
He told me that Mr. Grube will not run for SV Vice President in case oft this next week.
I will call him tomorrow again
Nice Regards
Sandokan
by missbeeb on 24 November 2010 - 08:11
Thank you!
by Sue B on 25 November 2010 - 12:11
Still no decision.
by Videx on 25 November 2010 - 12:11
The SV are doing everything possible to hold onto Braunschweig remaining the venue for the Sieger Show 2011, and this may take some time. The SV obviously realise the disruption that any change in venue will cause.
by Jantie on 26 November 2010 - 08:11
The SV realise now that their "experts" aren't that expert!
They're like a bunch of amateurs, and this comes out, only shortly before the new elections.
Some will have a lot of work to do to clean up the mess they made.
What a bunch of amateurs, in what is supposed to be the biggest and exemplary canine organization in the world.
I can't believe my ears.
Imagine we cancel the Soccer World Cup in Brazil a year before the deadline. "Sorry! Won't be in Brazil!!"
Mumbling: "Tsssuh!! Amateurs!!
They're like a bunch of amateurs, and this comes out, only shortly before the new elections.
Some will have a lot of work to do to clean up the mess they made.
What a bunch of amateurs, in what is supposed to be the biggest and exemplary canine organization in the world.
I can't believe my ears.
Imagine we cancel the Soccer World Cup in Brazil a year before the deadline. "Sorry! Won't be in Brazil!!"
Mumbling: "Tsssuh!! Amateurs!!
by Jantie on 26 November 2010 - 08:11
Psandokan?
A freshly created user-profile on PDB?!
Another anonymous person, bragging about meetings with Georg zum Felde?
WHAT meeting?
Meetings are pretty "official", are they not?
And "officials" don't go undercover, they put their names to their statements.
Explain what function you have in the SV, or how you are related to Georg or the Vice-President / SV-speaker.
Please also rephrase: "He told me that Mr. Grube will not run for SV Vice President in case oft this next week."
What does "in cae of this next week" mean??
Jan Demeyere
A freshly created user-profile on PDB?!
Another anonymous person, bragging about meetings with Georg zum Felde?
WHAT meeting?
Meetings are pretty "official", are they not?
And "officials" don't go undercover, they put their names to their statements.
Explain what function you have in the SV, or how you are related to Georg or the Vice-President / SV-speaker.
Please also rephrase: "He told me that Mr. Grube will not run for SV Vice President in case oft this next week."
What does "in cae of this next week" mean??
Jan Demeyere
by missbeeb on 26 November 2010 - 08:11
It's hilarious how you often demand facts from others Jantie, whilst failing to ascertain any yourself.
Look on the bright side... this has cheered up your dreary little life no end... bad news really does it for you, right?
by Psandokan on 27 November 2010 - 04:11
Hello Jantie,
I means Mr. Grube will not run for Vice President because he knows that he is responsible for the Problems with the Siegerschau 2011 in Braunschweig.
You are right that now everybody recognize that Mr Grube and his colleagues are amateurs.
They are amateurs and this is not bad but they are incapable!
They must recognize that they have to work for the belongings of the members of the SV, instead of discussing about ways to rescue Mr. Mayer form the court of the SV.
I think Mr. Grube needs more time to find a majority for Mr. Mayer and to hush up the deal with the highest SV Court about Mr. Mayer instead of organizing the BSZS 2011.
For this people its not a Problem to change the location of an BSZS as long as the business is running!
best regards
Sandokan
I means Mr. Grube will not run for Vice President because he knows that he is responsible for the Problems with the Siegerschau 2011 in Braunschweig.
You are right that now everybody recognize that Mr Grube and his colleagues are amateurs.
They are amateurs and this is not bad but they are incapable!
They must recognize that they have to work for the belongings of the members of the SV, instead of discussing about ways to rescue Mr. Mayer form the court of the SV.
I think Mr. Grube needs more time to find a majority for Mr. Mayer and to hush up the deal with the highest SV Court about Mr. Mayer instead of organizing the BSZS 2011.
For this people its not a Problem to change the location of an BSZS as long as the business is running!
best regards
Sandokan
by Jantie on 27 November 2010 - 15:11
Sandokan,
You are perfectly right.
A location WILL be found, that is definitely not the problem, the way they have let it come to the problems with the Braunschweiger stadium however is a huge problem, and just another proof of total incompetence, as far as “good management” is concerned.
This incompetence has been proven before.
We all lively remember the Hammer Protokoll with the harsh accusations of bribery, enrichment and cover-up of hip scores. Now any other organization would have had its press speaker explain the attitude of the SV-management towards the allegations and its top-judge, and it most certainly would have told the community that a special commission would start an in-depth investigation. In fact, the breed warden should have been put on hold (aside) until full clarification of the subjects. And he certainly would NOT have been allowed to judge any more shows, let alone the Siegerschau!
In this case, we heard nothing but silence, unless I missed something. Wasn’t the vice-president also the press speaker? Where was he when the Hammer Protokoll was written and distributed? What was his statement to the SV-public? Has the SV-management confronted their breed warden with the allegations? We heard no such thing!? Imagine, no official denial for the worst of accusations! Accusations made by TOP-SV-judges by the way!!
This can only mean that the allegations were true and that one did not find a way to shove Mr. Meyer aside. His power was too big. Now why would the power of a single man get so big? Certainly a way to get power/friends is by distributing a lot of presents. What could be a better present than a great title at the BSZS, therewith inviting females from all around the world to come for lucrative stud jobs, or raising prices for nice females before selling them to millionaires in China? My revenue-exercise has shown how much money is involved in this Big Business and the documentary “Pflegefall Schäferhund!?” has taught us that tax investigators became interested in the vast volume of this business, and they are not interested in peanuts. Rumors have now come up that some of Meyer’s friends are facing huge payments of tax arrears, which in fact is very funny. The biggest canine organization in the world clearly stipulates in its statutes that breeding within the SV must at all times remain hobby breeding! Hobby breeders won’t pay taxes! Their revenues don’t even cover the bills! So what did I miss here?
You are perfectly right.
A location WILL be found, that is definitely not the problem, the way they have let it come to the problems with the Braunschweiger stadium however is a huge problem, and just another proof of total incompetence, as far as “good management” is concerned.
This incompetence has been proven before.
We all lively remember the Hammer Protokoll with the harsh accusations of bribery, enrichment and cover-up of hip scores. Now any other organization would have had its press speaker explain the attitude of the SV-management towards the allegations and its top-judge, and it most certainly would have told the community that a special commission would start an in-depth investigation. In fact, the breed warden should have been put on hold (aside) until full clarification of the subjects. And he certainly would NOT have been allowed to judge any more shows, let alone the Siegerschau!
In this case, we heard nothing but silence, unless I missed something. Wasn’t the vice-president also the press speaker? Where was he when the Hammer Protokoll was written and distributed? What was his statement to the SV-public? Has the SV-management confronted their breed warden with the allegations? We heard no such thing!? Imagine, no official denial for the worst of accusations! Accusations made by TOP-SV-judges by the way!!
This can only mean that the allegations were true and that one did not find a way to shove Mr. Meyer aside. His power was too big. Now why would the power of a single man get so big? Certainly a way to get power/friends is by distributing a lot of presents. What could be a better present than a great title at the BSZS, therewith inviting females from all around the world to come for lucrative stud jobs, or raising prices for nice females before selling them to millionaires in China? My revenue-exercise has shown how much money is involved in this Big Business and the documentary “Pflegefall Schäferhund!?” has taught us that tax investigators became interested in the vast volume of this business, and they are not interested in peanuts. Rumors have now come up that some of Meyer’s friends are facing huge payments of tax arrears, which in fact is very funny. The biggest canine organization in the world clearly stipulates in its statutes that breeding within the SV must at all times remain hobby breeding! Hobby breeders won’t pay taxes! Their revenues don’t even cover the bills! So what did I miss here?
by Jantie on 27 November 2010 - 15:11
What the SV needs today is another management, and another approach. One that focuses on the health of the breed, and as you said, on the interests of the thousands of members of the SV (diminishing in numbers fast by the way), NOT the interests of the big moneymakers. A change of the order of priorities: not MONEY, but HEALTH, not QUANTITY, but QUALITY…
We must forget the Meyer’s, the Buss’es, the Schweikert’s, the Scheerer’s, the Dux’es, the Rieker’s (just to name a few)… and their respective (and international) followers (the ones they grant the big titles to -VA’s and top-V’s). They are all relics from the past. They have had their chances and their best years. So thank you and goodbye!
Today the GSD must step into a new era. We need trustworthy judges that don’t give presents to their followers, but judge the dogs as they are. We need a management ready and able to face the created problems. A management that is willing to communicate with its public, ready to leave the dark rooms smelling of conspiracy. Let’s hope the election will give us hope for the future.
Yours truly,
Jan
We must forget the Meyer’s, the Buss’es, the Schweikert’s, the Scheerer’s, the Dux’es, the Rieker’s (just to name a few)… and their respective (and international) followers (the ones they grant the big titles to -VA’s and top-V’s). They are all relics from the past. They have had their chances and their best years. So thank you and goodbye!
Today the GSD must step into a new era. We need trustworthy judges that don’t give presents to their followers, but judge the dogs as they are. We need a management ready and able to face the created problems. A management that is willing to communicate with its public, ready to leave the dark rooms smelling of conspiracy. Let’s hope the election will give us hope for the future.
Yours truly,
Jan
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