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by ALPHAPUP on 26 July 2012 - 13:07

BTW---- I am not sofisticated enough to enunciate the Modern/current Physics Theory -BUT-- According to the genius scientists that DO UNDERSTAND  have an understanding , the speed of light was  very different at the origin of the universe [ than we know it today]. my apologioes for not being to explain the specifics , but i have heard lectures that actually present the spewcifics of modern day physics and ascribe to that fact : According to the theory of light speed ,   in fact it is very possible for certain cosmic events to have come about in a 24 hour period. !! This is so .    anyone can research this for themselves. Again - much that was taught academically when i was young   is either not entirely correct or just plain wrong !!  Many scientists that once did not believe have become believers.
            At this moment we have the technology to be able to transmit information from one human to another  just by a mere touch of a finger. Through the use of our electomagnetic fields in our body ,  information from  an electronic device , e.g telphone can be transmitted held in your pocket can be transmitted from you to another just by being touched by a finger . Incredible , yes .. but true !! the point : just 100 to 50 years ago if you told someone that this would be possible - they would have thought you deranged !! No one would have believed. We in human hisory can accomplish this ... So -when we realize : " with God .. ALL things are possible". [ even things we thought impossible are now our reality ]
           Does anyone here understand what it takes for a person to have a thought and an action ?? In a quick simplistic mention ./. i won't get into all the biophysiological medical aspects - in short : one specialized neuron cell must become excited , release a specific chemical . the process continuesvia communication with billions of other cells , down a nervous pathway of other specialized cells into a muscle , which is also compromised of specialized cell /cell activity to be able to perform and carrry out that thought.Each transfer requires specific chemical reactions and specialized cellular matter.  I repeat: In a simplicity : ? this just happened to come about by ' an evolution?'.  i cannot even begin to calculate 'the ODDS' of this event being able to come about from ... one molecule that might have come into existence randomly /by chance!! Surely - this was not random IMO- there is a design to this !! AP

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 26 July 2012 - 14:07

alphapup said,,,
"Surely - this was not random IMO- there is a design to this !!"

Taking a trip to your local tropical fish shop should quickly support the idea that all this was not random!..Creation declares there IS a God!..




Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 26 July 2012 - 15:07

"Surely - this was not random IMO- there is a design to this !!"

Again you use this specious argument to "prove" the existence of a god and then say that that same logic doesn't apply to that entity itself who by definition would have to be infinitely more complex.  You can't have it both ways.

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 26 July 2012 - 15:07

IMO it is not necessary for me to prove all parts of Evolution wrong,,The truth be said, no human idea of faith or not can account for every single thing that has ever occurred..We are all guessing at best about how and when certain things occurred...It is not necessary for me personally to have an answer for every single thought that runs through my mind..I am convinced that as humans we will not master any of these ideas or fathom the complexity of creation or the Creator...


Shtal, You misunderstood the question I was asking you..I am NOT interested in debating the "Origin of Evolution"...

You insinuated by your comment that Christian children in schools where evolution is taught will reject the Christian Faith...That is theologically unsound,,,Scare tactics..

NO one will reject the Christian faith based on what they have heard, been taught or believe about evolution..The issue will always be what one believes about Christ, period!, NOT evolution/age of the earth issues, ect. ect.. ....

  



Shtal

by Shtal on 27 July 2012 - 01:07

Ruger1,

Go to School, go into classroom of the first grade and ask kids when did dinosaurs lived, the entire classroom will say millions of years ago, if a child get his mind set at young age and christian parent won't catch in time and let the kid to believe that, once he/she matures - the doubtful thoughts will challenge him/her towards Bible.

I don't like to debade with christians but that is just my small hint.
Have a nice day,
God bless.
Shtal.


Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 27 July 2012 - 02:07

Shtal,,BTW I am still waiting for you to answer my question on the other thread,,Are you planning to?..

I find it odd that you dislike to debate with other Christians,,Do you dislike the accountability?..What is your reason?..

Let's take the worst case scenario and say that someone believes that dinosaurs lived 1000 years ago...So what!..Are you suggesting that would be enough to damn a person?..Is it a matter of salvation??..


Shtal

by Shtal on 27 July 2012 - 04:07

Ruger1 wrote: What is your reason?.


I am not worthy, that is how I feel, so just let it go.


I am done.

Sincerely,
Shtal.

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 27 July 2012 - 09:07

WARNING: This video contains foul language, so if you're offended by that, don't watch if. 



Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 27 July 2012 - 14:07

Shtal,,I am confused. You will post all day long with everyone else, but when confronted by me with two simple questions you shut down and tell me to " let it go "...Your comment about not being "worthy"..I don't buy it..What is going on with you?.. I find it rather strange that you expect others to answer your questions, yet you ignore the two questions I have asked you..
 

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 27 July 2012 - 14:07

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.  Blitzen....God didn't come from "anywhere"....In the beginning God......Try to grasp that for a minute.........You can't, can you? Nor can any human mind.  God always was and is and will be.  If you can honestly believe the nonsense that all of the universe, the planets, the solar systems, the oceans, the animals on the land and in the sea, the complexity of them and the humans as well, the weather, tornadoes, hurricanes,  floods, volcanoes, sunsets, storms, etc etc.......All just somehow by "chance" came together so perfectly.  Nonsense! It doesn't make any sense, as perfected as these things are and as complex.  The only answer is ......In the beginning God.....God did these things, God created these things. Psalm 14 says that a fool in his heart says there is no God.  Just as the beginning of Psalm 19 goes to explain the evidence of Him being the creator. I think it was you on another thread that said I probably believe the world is flat......Tell where it was mentioned in the scriptures that they believed it was flat? You can't....... Nor do I believe that, that's silly.    

The truth of it all is that the humanist have taken control of the education system and the news media. They seek to destroy every Christian and Christian's childrens belief in God, they teach that everything evolved, or of the big bang theory, or of other things.  Nothing will be as perfected as it has been without SOMETHING supreme doing so, it can't be explained any other way.  And to you and others who say that other "religions" have "gods".  Do they? They weren't real gods. These so called gods as the bible mentions were "man made" into idols, that did nothing for them, and were not real by any means. There are plenty of scriptures that speak of that as well, where the one true God always prevailed, but the man made Gods did not....because they weren't real.  The sad truth is that that the world teaches everyone they should be tolerant.....but yet they aren't tolerant of Christians and their beliefs! Throw the Christians out who were praying, because it might offend someone! That is sickening to say the least.  And it clearly says something about the world today. The world is in a mess, full of those who end up with AIDs, STDs, who commit crimes, who murder, who drink and drive killing innocent people, and the list goes on.  The government throws money at this to "find a way to fix" the problem. But yet if they lived right in the first place according to how the New Testament says......these things would not have happened in the first place would they? Of course not.  I can't tell you how many have ruined their lives because of alcohol, how many have ended up with problems from premarital sex with many different partners, or problems with drugs, etc.  Outside of Christianity, the world's view is "you're not going to tell me how to live my life".......But yet did your parents not tell you what to do and discipline you as a child? Or did you when you were 5, yell back at them telling them they won't control your life and you'll do what you want to do?  But I know, many think that "Christians can't think for themselves, that they're weak minded".... That's a sad way to view it.... because it isn't true.





 


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