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fawndallas

by fawndallas on 15 July 2012 - 03:07

Remember, the challenge is to give me a word your dog understands and it is not behavior associated only.

by beetree on 15 July 2012 - 03:07

What point? MY POINT is they do understand, you just don't know what you see until you are told .... Advantage? Blah! You have puppies for weeks! Teaching is easy, training... I don't think you have even touched that in any meaningful way. Yet.  You may in time, I don't know.

by beetree on 15 July 2012 - 03:07

Give me an example first of what you mean. Then I will play.

alboe2009

by alboe2009 on 15 July 2012 - 03:07

For first set of questions;  200% sure what item they will pick up. But remember................Even the most basic interpretation (saying frisbee/looking at frisbee) is not basic to them. Many things are involved. the sight of the frisbee, the smell, the taste, knowing what it's for, how they pick it up and so on. For one example........ and this is mostly for visualization/understanding. ( And I'm sure others have their stories and I bet some could even raise the bar) But if I am even "playing/excercising/running" the pack and am using different things; Kong and Kong Ball, both being red. (had black ones, they would have one in their mouths and see a rabbit or other animal and gone. Then drop the black Kong in the woods and I couldn't find it) So now red! But if I'm running them and have multiple outs and all three are running and chasing these things and I throw somewhere where they didn't see the direction or the location of where it landed they will still find each item. Now it might not be the most direct/in a line result but they will find it, (off a "search command") that proves two immediate things: 1. The command is the word(that they know, it's only one word, Dutch or two words, English) 2. The smell of material mixed with their saliva and the scent path/pattern/trail on the ground/in the grass plus emmitting where the item rests.

For the second set of questions. I don't direct my k9s to go to anyone. Not sure if you were serious on that one......................   

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 15 July 2012 - 03:07

Sorry. This was meant to be fun. (see rules). Game over. Maybe my method will help; maybe it will not.

by beetree on 15 July 2012 - 03:07

Hey, you quit. I had a brother like that and an attitude about games. Would only play Monopoly if he could be the "BOAT".

alboe2009

by alboe2009 on 15 July 2012 - 03:07

YOUR POSTS WERE MEANT FOR FUN???  That might be fine......... are you saying your entire thread was for fun and you weren't attempting to gain legite information? Hmmmmnnnnnnn? Okay.

alboe2009

by alboe2009 on 15 July 2012 - 03:07

Well, I just found out that 6/7 entries were posted before my entry so it appears  OP was either playing a game or having fun??? Interesting........................................................................?

 


fawndallas

by fawndallas on 15 July 2012 - 05:07

Sorry. It appeared that others were getting upset at my posts. If I misunderstood....my bad. Let's continue. ------ This thread is meant to gain insight on a unique way of training dogs, by combining how dogs teach each other with how humans teach dogs. ------ I modified the thread slightly after a post stating that dogs "understand" our words. My take, from my research and dog training applications, is that dogs do not actually understand our words. They relate our words to cause and effect only. Thus the "game.". -------- I am looking for an example of a word (s) where the dog actually understands. This is for all to learn. Nothing wrong with making learning fun. --------- I enjoy the behavioral sciences. If I can be proven wrong or at least give me the thought that maybe dogs do actually understand, I have gained something very valuable to me. -------- So that said, let me look back over the responses. It may take me a bit, as Sunday is busy for me and I am traveling.

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 15 July 2012 - 05:07

Albone, how are you 200% sure what the dog will pick up between the new frisbee and the paper plate? I mean no malice; I am truly trying to understand how your dog would understand the difference without a behavior already being taught regarding the object. --------- As for my dogs being taught to go to a specific person, I am very serious. Both of my adult GSDs have been taught this between my husband, son, and I. This is part of service and personal emergency dog training. Specifically Rose, my service dog. She knows the command "go to Fawnda.". When given this, she searches and finds me. Same with my husband. This was taught so that I have as much freedom as possible. For example: if I am out at the barn and fall. If needed, I can tell Rose "go to bob.". My husband knows if Rose comes to him and I am not near by, something is wrong and he needs to find me. So in turn, he tells Rose "go to fawnda," then follows her. ------





 


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