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by Donnerstorm on 18 May 2012 - 02:05
by workingdogz on 18 May 2012 - 09:05
but come trial day, when the handler is stressed
and nervous, it will show up again.
It will show up anytime the dog is left to
deal with the fear without having any sort
of 'distraction' like bitework etc.
by karen forbes on 18 May 2012 - 13:05
by Dobermannman on 18 May 2012 - 14:05
IMO, you can 'fix' this as much as you want,
but come trial day, when the handler is stressed
and nervous, it will show up again.
>NO it wouldn't. If it's "fixed"
>If you desensitize the dog properly then you eliminate the problem
It will show up anytime the dog is left to
deal with the fear without having any sort
of 'distraction' like bitework etc.
>What fear? Gun shyness/reactivity can be based on too much whip stimulation or sensitive hearing or an
>improper association. All training issues not fear issues. Washing out a dog because of gun shyness without
>trying to fix the problem makes ZERO sense. Assuming that gun shyness is always a temperament issue
>makes ZERO sense also.
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by judron55 on 18 May 2012 - 17:05
improper association. All training issues not fear issues.
Gun shyness based on too much whip...nah....reactivity to a whip...she sure does that, but not in a fearful way. Sensitive hearing...possible, but what could be done to help problem...ear plugs:-)
Washing out a dog because of gun shyness without trying to fix the problem makes ZERO sense.
who can say the problem can be fixed? I'm of the opinion the dog would make an excellent pet....
by workingdogz on 18 May 2012 - 17:05
or 'fear' related, why force a round peg into a square hole?
Again, you can try to 'fix' all you want, have at it.
The problem will surface again at a time of stress
for the dog. Dogs like many animals, will rely on their
'default' behavior, which in this case is to 'run'.
A dog breaking a down to run towards the noise is not
a big issue, a dog cowering and running AWAY is.
by brynjulf on 18 May 2012 - 17:05
by judron55 on 18 May 2012 - 18:05
The problem will surface again at a time of stress
for the dog. Dogs like many animals, will rely on their
'default' behavior, which in this case is to 'run'.
A dog breaking a down to run towards the noise is not
a big issue, a dog cowering and running AWAY is.
my opinion exactly...for this dog anyway:-).....
by judron55 on 18 May 2012 - 18:05
The dog has an excellent bark in the blind...very good grips...re-attack...outs are fine...courage test is another excellent feature....great ball drive...retrieves are nice...heeling, she seems a bit distracted...lack of focus...I believe that is a handler/dog relationship problem...tracks like a machine...I've seen her down under gunfire 5 times now and it's not pretty....slinking...avoidance...cowering...ONLY on the long down....I've worked her in protection during gun fire with good success....but, I need to see more to say she's really engaged....will see more Sunday...thanks folks....
by Super Para on 18 May 2012 - 19:05
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