BAD BEHAVIOR - Page 3

Hi yelowrose and every one, thanks for your wise advices, I bought Fidu  a lot of toys, but look at the pic who are his prefered toys:

 

My hens!, they are now shut up, but at least  I was able to handle him when he was out of control.
When we go for a wolk it is imposible to control him, I am afraid he breaks the harness, because he is very heavy.
I have no idea the age he must begin to be trained, I am looking for a personal trayner for him. Meanwhile Im working to achieve my goal wich is to control him in order him to not become a dangerous dog for other people or  animals. What age does he must biguin to be trained, do somebody know?

The training begins the day you get him.  Teach him to walk properly on a leash, teach him to wait before he enters or exits the house (you go first) or car,  teach him to sit before he gets a treat,  teach him what is acceptable and what is not, ie lunging at dogs or people, but in all of the teaching, you must be consistent, require the same thing everytime, or it will confuse him and training will go no where.  :)

 

Personally I NEVER use harnesses for dogs that need correction. IMO harnesses are for dogs to pull so if you want a dog to pull and have a lot of power doing it then great use a harness. At this age I would use a light slip lead. This is what I use on young dogs. The lead should be kept loose until a correction is needed. I have had a puppy like yours and this pup sounds like he needs a lot of exercise, training, obedience, and a fun job to do (like fetch or finding food under objects). He is going to be a lot of work and you need to hang in there and work with him everyday. I can't stress enough how important it is going to be to seek out a good professional trainer who is experienced in GSDs or a similar working/protection high drive breed. You also need to be confident with this dog. Don't let him get you stressed out, upset, angry, etc. You need to be the voice and mind of reason with him and keeping a cool and calm demeanor while applying correction is going to be key. Remember, you are the one in control and you need to convey that to him also.

The reason I suggested a harness for her is this dog is very dominant and she has not any experience with that kind.

If I had said..yank his neck hard enought to correct him after three commands and he didnt obey. I would have been lynched.

Many people believe a slip collar or fur saver does damage to dogs spines and neck..I DO NOT..
I have trained 20 or more gsd with choke or fur savers and I have had to use more than a yank or a correction on mine...enough said there/


It is very hard to tell someone who has no experience what to do on an internet page.
I do not even own a harness but I also know this dog will need to be yanked harder than usual.

I was not about to tell her to yank him into tomorrow by the neck..as no experience  might cause injury..

Yes she has to be  ALPHA but unless someone experienced shows her, she won't understand that..


jmo

YR

Prong Training collar; WORN ONLY WHEN SUPERVISED,ie, during training.

O, & Training Treats Go A LONG Way, when training a dog :)
When they obey, Jack Pot treats!!

 Betta is correct that a prong training collar would work  immeditely.

one or two corrections with one , that pup gets it pretty quick, but you take it off the  minute you quit training and it is not for playing in..

it is for Obedience for about 10- 15 mins maybe twice a day..
I also take it with me on walks for my bad boy Czuiker, and if he starts the disobedience I put it on and change to it as we walk ..
Keep it in your vehicle when you take him anywhere so You can revert to it if you have a problem...
I keep one in home, on property and in my truck...but they come with add on lengths and you will have to add as he gets older.and thicker neck..



I give all my puppy buyers  Stewart and Hilliards " Method and Theory of Schutzhund" as the obedience is  straight on and much good tips about even how to pick your pup...and then on to tracking and even if you are not going into schutzhund it is a super good read and helps all new people know why all of us are so  Instructional about your gsd...LOL

And how you start your training early and keep at it...

The book covers  LOTS OF things valuable.

YR

Exactly, as YR stated!!!

With the Prong collar, the dog corrects themself when they pull on walks!

But NEVER leave this collar on a dog unattended!!!
I left my dog in the breezeway for moments, & while scratching she got her hind leg thru collar & was choking, more she struggled, tighter the collar = makes me shudder to this day!!

Your boy is very handsome, from the pictures he looks big boned and large for 3.5months. He may be a tad on the heavy side, I don't know how much you are feeding him but I would cut back a little, especially if you are going to be using alot of food in training. Normally you wouldn't use a prong training collar on a puppy this age but if he is as strong willed and prey driven as you describe you might need it, especially so he gets the message about not attacking the chickens and your other dog. As others have said, it is on only when training. You have your hands full with that boy for sure!


Jo Ann 

I used a prong collar on my puppy who reminds me of this dog. Please consult a trainer on how to use it. Most people want to put them on loose like a slip lead. Prong should be worn fairly tight (tighter than one who isn't experienced in them would think). If it is too loose or too tight there is a potential to hurt the dog. I have used prong collars on all my dogs and they work fantastic however, if you haven't used one PLEASE have someone who knows how they should be used fit your dog with one and show you how to use it. Remember timing is everything. 

Chances are you are going to have to be more physical with this dog than you may be comfortable with. You need an experienced trainer to guide you on how, when, and why to do this.

If your puppy is very "hyper" (beyond normal puppy high energy) I have heard that lower protein diets may help. I don't know a lot about this or the reason why it works but I have heard from several people that it can help with a crack like/ADD/hyper puppy. Maybe someone with more experience can comment on this.

A prong on a 3.5 month old puppy?????

Unless the person at the other end of the leash is a 100 years old, weighs 90 lbs. and has no more strength than a newborn baby, there's no way to justify putting a prong on a 16 week old pup.  A martingale collar should be sufficient for a dog this age, if you need more control than what a flat buckle collar gives...but it's too soon for a prong collar, IMO.   

mentayflor, not sure what country you're in, so I don't know what you have available to you as far as public libraries; with a pup of this age, you'll get your best results with least amount of resistance by using food lures to help shape the behaviors you want, and food rewards when he's successful in following your cues, so if you have access to a lending library you'll want to look for books on training using positive reinforcement  methods.  

As for his reluctance to allow strangers to pet him, I wouldn't make a big issue of it-- from a dog's point of view, hovering over him, trying to touch his head or his body, is quite rude as well as potentially threatening. Instead of trying to discipline him for wanting to avoid these unwanted advances, which will only make him dislike them even more, fill your pockets with small pieces of some food he finds very, very tasty (you want the pieces to be about the size of your thumbnail), put his collar and leash on and take him out for a walk.  As you see people approach you, get a piece of treat from your pocket and draw your pup's attention to you with the food--this is an ideal time to start teaching him to focus on your face, and you may even want to tell him "watch me" or "focus" so he learns to give you his attention on command . As soon as he responds to your lure, reward him with it; keep him focused on you with your food lures and rewards, gradually building up how long he has to look you in the eyes before you give him the reward.  As long as he's got food drive, he should soon learn to automatically look to you when a stranger comes at him, and he'll ignore that person in favor of you and the possibility of a treat.