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by Chaz Reinhold on 04 December 2011 - 20:12
I would say, "no, no, bad boy" in a high pitched voice. Then I would give him a time out, because he would totally understand that. Then, I wouldn't look at him for 33 1/2 minutes, just to let him know that he hurt my feelings. I'd probably cry for a couple minutes, and then we'd spoon.
by hunger4justice on 04 December 2011 - 20:12
Chaz, I first take away their video games and refuse to spoon. Guess I am a lot meaner.
You have to correct aggression, but my point was that one must be careful that the correction is not actually increasing aggression (pinch collars and e-collars can both amp the dog up, depending on their use) as can your own tension and they way you handle the leash upon anticipating the problem dog.
You have to correct aggression, but my point was that one must be careful that the correction is not actually increasing aggression (pinch collars and e-collars can both amp the dog up, depending on their use) as can your own tension and they way you handle the leash upon anticipating the problem dog.
by Chaz Reinhold on 04 December 2011 - 20:12
Agree with you there. Just like in every aspect of training, timing is everything.
by Emoore on 04 December 2011 - 21:12
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Oh yeah, definitely I try to be aware of that.
| You have to correct aggression, but my point was that one must be careful that the correction is not actually increasing aggression (pinch collars and e-collars can both amp the dog up, depending on their use) as can your own tension and they way you handle the leash upon anticipating the problem dog. |
Oh yeah, definitely I try to be aware of that.
by destiny4u on 04 December 2011 - 22:12
quick question is she suppose to correct right after the first bark? or before like right when the dog is going to go at it ? but has not made a sound yet but is just about to. If the dog is already firing away is it too late for correction?
by Chaz Reinhold on 04 December 2011 - 23:12
Let me ask you a question. Do you stop your child before, during or after he/she has stuck a key in an outlet?
by VonIsengard on 05 December 2011 - 00:12
I do not tolerate dog aggression of any kind, from any dog, any age, any breed in my classes. I don't give a crap if another dog is giving the stink eye, out in the real world most people's dogs act like idiots. I expect a trained, well controlled dog to act like it and take the high road.
How much correction a dog needs to stop is depended on the dog, and the trainer won't tell you that- your dog will. How? When you've made your point, it will start working.
Weak, naggy corrections will only overload and spur many dogs into acting worse. Take a deep breath and give ONE calm, but very firm correction, not 20 wimpy ones. When the dog stops staring down the other dogs and looks up at you as if to say, "WOAH! Sorry!" you move on. Dog is still staring down the other dogs? You didn't make your point.
Contrary to some opinions out there, a few hard but fair, well-timed corrections given to even a young dog who is out of line will not "ruin" your dog unless it was a total squish to begin with- in which case it wouldn't be challenging other dogs, anyway.
How much correction a dog needs to stop is depended on the dog, and the trainer won't tell you that- your dog will. How? When you've made your point, it will start working.
Weak, naggy corrections will only overload and spur many dogs into acting worse. Take a deep breath and give ONE calm, but very firm correction, not 20 wimpy ones. When the dog stops staring down the other dogs and looks up at you as if to say, "WOAH! Sorry!" you move on. Dog is still staring down the other dogs? You didn't make your point.
Contrary to some opinions out there, a few hard but fair, well-timed corrections given to even a young dog who is out of line will not "ruin" your dog unless it was a total squish to begin with- in which case it wouldn't be challenging other dogs, anyway.
by Kerschberger on 05 December 2011 - 00:12
Hi I didnt read any of the other comments due to a lack of time,
a one yr old to my opinion, "dont expect too much of them" he's going thru puberty after all.
If this is a breeding prospect, Get his hips/elbows done first, (before any serious training)
then start seriously WALKING your dog and wear him out
BEFORE you go to any training. Play retrieve, etc whatever he likes, but wear him down,
then you have a worn out dog when you start training
Put a harness on him, NOT A COLLAR I never bother with collars ever and it always works
if need be try the halty - (in combination with the harness)
At this age they are goofy about 10-ish so don't over do it, if you want it to be fun, that is
When he starts mis-behaving, training is OVER. He doesn't know its training, to him,
its all about the entertainment and being with you, so take it away, dont even say anything.
Just take off and go home, but decide QUICK, no hesitation as they live in the moment, unlike
us with awareness. (you may want to try clicker training)
When i go on our daily pack walks and one starts to be a rascal they are back in the house,
that bugs them a lot more than anything.
a one yr old to my opinion, "dont expect too much of them" he's going thru puberty after all.
If this is a breeding prospect, Get his hips/elbows done first, (before any serious training)
then start seriously WALKING your dog and wear him out
BEFORE you go to any training. Play retrieve, etc whatever he likes, but wear him down,
then you have a worn out dog when you start training
Put a harness on him, NOT A COLLAR I never bother with collars ever and it always works
if need be try the halty - (in combination with the harness)
At this age they are goofy about 10-ish so don't over do it, if you want it to be fun, that is
When he starts mis-behaving, training is OVER. He doesn't know its training, to him,
its all about the entertainment and being with you, so take it away, dont even say anything.
Just take off and go home, but decide QUICK, no hesitation as they live in the moment, unlike
us with awareness. (you may want to try clicker training)
When i go on our daily pack walks and one starts to be a rascal they are back in the house,
that bugs them a lot more than anything.
by Chaz Reinhold on 05 December 2011 - 01:12
Like I said, then spoon
by alboe2009 on 05 December 2011 - 03:12
destiny4u,
Something led up to the first bark. OP, (or you) need to read the dog. If you can attempt to read the others. As Moon stated SOME dogs just don't like each other for whatever the reason(s) but we are the masters of our dogs and their behavior is what is/is not acceptable to us. For me, in public, I would not let my dogs even "leer" at another dog. Rarely ever in that situation. but certain things are not tolerated even the beginning steps. So for OP's or your dog to "leer" or key on another dog is a start. But then you need to read and see what is happening for things to escalate. The bark, (or lunge, or whatever unwanted action is) isn't the beginning. Something made it get to that point. Timing is everything but if the dog is going off on another, and you missed the exact moment. You still can't just let him/her do what is unwanted.
For the commentary who stated "a one year old, don't expect too much out of them........." I totally disagree. My dogs are pretty much set at 6 mos. of age. They start training one day after arrival. My Reiker at 6 mos was better than the majority of dogs in class that were one, and one and a half. There have been times when other dogs, (whose owners couldn't control them) have "approached" Reiker and all I had to do was command "sit" and he wasn't bothered one iota. I stated in one of my previous threads one day I was at PetSmart, only have taken the dogs there once/twice. I was walking the two girls back to the truck and walked pass a large SUV with three or four dogs. These dogs were going BERSERK, slamming into the windows and for a second I wondered if they could get out. My two girls looked at their vehicle because of the commotion but other than that could care less.
First and foremost IMO is what is and what isn't acceptable behavior or actions and that for me starts at 8 weeks or when the pup arrives.
And if he's misbehaving and training is over? What did he learn?
Something led up to the first bark. OP, (or you) need to read the dog. If you can attempt to read the others. As Moon stated SOME dogs just don't like each other for whatever the reason(s) but we are the masters of our dogs and their behavior is what is/is not acceptable to us. For me, in public, I would not let my dogs even "leer" at another dog. Rarely ever in that situation. but certain things are not tolerated even the beginning steps. So for OP's or your dog to "leer" or key on another dog is a start. But then you need to read and see what is happening for things to escalate. The bark, (or lunge, or whatever unwanted action is) isn't the beginning. Something made it get to that point. Timing is everything but if the dog is going off on another, and you missed the exact moment. You still can't just let him/her do what is unwanted.
For the commentary who stated "a one year old, don't expect too much out of them........." I totally disagree. My dogs are pretty much set at 6 mos. of age. They start training one day after arrival. My Reiker at 6 mos was better than the majority of dogs in class that were one, and one and a half. There have been times when other dogs, (whose owners couldn't control them) have "approached" Reiker and all I had to do was command "sit" and he wasn't bothered one iota. I stated in one of my previous threads one day I was at PetSmart, only have taken the dogs there once/twice. I was walking the two girls back to the truck and walked pass a large SUV with three or four dogs. These dogs were going BERSERK, slamming into the windows and for a second I wondered if they could get out. My two girls looked at their vehicle because of the commotion but other than that could care less.
First and foremost IMO is what is and what isn't acceptable behavior or actions and that for me starts at 8 weeks or when the pup arrives.
And if he's misbehaving and training is over? What did he learn?
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