Puppies dying. - Page 3

Jackie, beautifully said. I second YR- giving a nursing bitch purina is like a nursing human mother living off ramen noodles. If indeed, this post is genuine.

i didnt have a job and was living in my mothers house and i was feeding my female totw and raw bones with cottage cheeze when she had her 10 puppys i even had a vet be suprised saying she was the healthyest looking female nurseing 10 puppys she had seen lately. i took her to the vet because she threw up XD but i wasent takeing any chances. and im sorry to say if you feel 2 young children is a good excuse for not haveing the dog in your house you are sorely mistaken the only shepherds i have met that didnt get along with children where of no quality to be breeding period. i have bin around active duty police dogs and mwds who are perfictly fine with children of coarse monitored but still. they also could have fadeing puppy syndrome which can be caused by tons of things as people have stated in here and you can lose the hole litter. i would buck up and take them to the vet if u cannot even put them in your garage make shade out of a tarp and some posts and put straw or pine shaveings down in the bottom of it so they are off the dirt but leave the sides open so there is a lot of air flow you will also have to dig a trench around it so water dosent get in and drownd your puppies. and please spay and neuter your dogs or atleast spay the female if you want the male to have his testosterone but dont let him out and breed another dog. just aint right man no i dont see my dogs as my kids or something to that affect i see my female as my partner and she will always be my partner and i wouldent want that partner to not be cared for as i would want to be cared for

How sad!

Maybe a small plastic swimming pool with some holes put in the bottom (in case it rains)


My friend didn't have any room when her dog had puppies. She cleaned out a her small closet for the pups and mom. That worked pretty well for the first few weeks.

I think we lost the OP.

I am not going to be critical of this lady but its obvious she does not have much experience if any with having puppies.  I agree with everyone else that she should have both these dogs fixed asap.  What I want to comment on is her digging next to the house.  As most of you already know I recently had a litter of 9 Bouviers.  All lived and are healthy and beautiful.  I had a great whelping box set up in our bedroom down stairs in our home next to our bed.  Our female Cassie during her pregnacy dug a hole next to the house that was going right down to the whelping box.  I think she was trying to dig an entrance from the outside.  I must have filled that hole back in half a dozen times.  She did not dig anywhere else just right there next to the whelping box on the other side of the wall.  What was sort of unusual about this were our two males.  When she was not digging those turkey's would help her and I had three Bouvs with mud clotted noses for about a month.  If I had to guess I would say this GSD was trying to burrow into the house in an area she may lay in when she is let inside.  These puppies need to be where the lady can give them the added care they need rather then being left to luck that they will survive on their own.  Just my opinion.  Steve

That is interesting sjbo.  I was under the impression she was digging beside the dog house.  I think she was trying to find a cool spot for the pups, and may have been okay if just left alone.  I don't think interfering is always the best.

I had a cat once  have her kittens on a cement floor.  At the time I thought she was a crappy mother, but, it was extremely hot out, and the cement was the coolest part of the barn.  When it got cooler, she moved them onto straw.  Instinct is an amazing thing, and often the mother does know best.  I say often and not always because I've seen some pretty stupid mothers too.

I don't know if the OP is dropping in anymore, but I hope the puppies are doing well.  It would be nice to have an update.

YR, a lot of carpet is not natural fibers anymore, However, the formaldhyde is in the carpet glue they use to put it and the pad down with. If you make your carpet layers use Hospital Grade Glue (it is even cheaper) you can immed. tell, no odor that will knock your socks of for a month or two. for any one who is pg and putting in new carpet, this is something to take note of.

I haven't been on here for a few days...and I saw today that people are wanting to know how the pups are doing. The pups are doing great and getting big and fat. Just the first two days is when I lost the 4. I have 8 healthy, growing pups now.....to the one that thought I had bad carpet, I used brand new carpet, with no glue. And to the one that thinks I'm a lady, I'm very much a man! (the username has to do with something else, not myself) but who can tell from a forum like this...I know most of you don't understand this, but I was raised with dogs, cats, chickens, goats, cows, pigeons, turkeys, guineas, horses, and a few other animals here and there, but we didn't have them in our home...and I'm not afraid of how my shepherds act with me and my wife's children, they are awesome with them, but I'm just used to raising animals "outside",  call me crazy, but that's just me... and I don't think anyone that want's to have their pets inside is crazy, that's your choice. We did bring the mom into our home through the rough part of the winter, when it was extremely cold and lots of snow, so I'm not totally adament about not bringing them into the house at all. I've helped birth my goats, watched over my setting hens, incubated a host of different fowl, took care of our cows when they calved and been all over with my horses...so I know quite a bit about animals...I've just never had a registered GSD before and thought that this forum might be the place to ask a question of why she insisted on having them on the ground instead of inside the doghouse...she hasn't taken them out anymore, and they are doing great. I did put a fan out there for them and I think that maybe that has helped some, It definitely isn't as hot as it has been here this summer prior to her having her pups, and this weekend it is supposed to start cooling off even more, so I'm looking forward to that. It won't be hard for me to find homes for the puppies at all, I've already found homes for probably 6 of them...You may not understand me, and I may not totally understand you, but that's ok, I'm sure you've had a pup here or there that didn't make it either, even with all of your hard work...So just letting everyone know that was interested, mom and pups are doing good. I tried to upload a pic of the mom, but It wasn't letting me...haven't taken good pics of the pups yet.

 Glad you posted and let us know your updates when you can.
  
 We are all most of us breeders of long time and we just get a little carried away with 

 tying to get over to people who do not do the regiment we all do , to just be careful with all you do.

 Feeding is the biggest criterior for the MOM , and lot of people do not like to hear , that DOG FOOD brands make a difference and the ingredients, do make a big difference of the final outcome of a good strong healthy pup with no  health issues down the road.

POST some pictures of the pups when you can. I am sure someone can help you do it. NOT me!

MY computer is ok ,but dial up sucks and nothing works right at any given time.

As to my statement about carpet , I lend to you this from a post on Carpets and the dangers they can be to HUMANS> Copied":

  

Carpets are often made of synthetic fibers and they're treated with toxic chemicals that are hazardous to your health and your family's health. These carpets pose a threat to the families that have them installed as well as those people who install them. Often times those facing the greatest risks are infants, toddlers, and pets, which spend the most time breathing closest to the floor.

Following are some of the dangerous chemicals found in carpets in emissions tests:

Acetone Benzene Styrene Hexane Toluene

Formaldehyde Caprolactam Xylenes Vinylcyclohexene p-Dichlorobenzene

Basically, emissions tests are a measure of the fumes that carpets give off. If carpets are putting out these toxins, then people can be breathing them in. Compound these chemicals with those in the cleanser formulas and you can begin to see the dangers present.

Thanks for the update moonshadow. Everyone is different, and you have some pretty hardcore GSD people here. Reading your first post was a bit alarming to some, myself included. After more of your explanation, I feel better. I am so glad pups are growing and all is well. Please try a better diet for mother. It will do a world of good for mom and pups. Good Luck and Take Care    Pete