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by SitasMom on 13 June 2011 - 19:06



 $1,500 -$8,000 + shipping on average additional $1,000.

Is what i've seen, depending on how green, temperament, breeding and more.
 

Jyl

by Jyl on 13 June 2011 - 20:06

This is a very interesting thread and actually timed perferctly...I have not purchased a dog in a while. I am going to be getting a "green" young dog in a couple months. I will be getting a male though and will be doing SchH with him. I was thinking that a good "green" dog would cost about $2000 - $3000.


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 14 June 2011 - 00:06

I would agree, Jyl, especially for a male. 

Rik

by Rik on 14 June 2011 - 01:06

jenn, who you going to to talk to on "green' are you going to Germany to choose one personably. this is what I would do. you can probably make the trip and pay for the dog for approx. the same price you will pay for a "green" bitch in the U.S.

are you going to take some ones word or do you plan to put your hand on the dog's head. if you don't, then I'm going to say that the only thing "green" is you.

if I wanted one I wold be at BSP this year. I know folks who have gotten excellent dogs at reasonable prices here.

jmo,
Rik

VKGSDs

by VKGSDs on 14 June 2011 - 02:06

The key word for me is "breeding".  I said I'd expect to pay $3500 and up.  That is for a truly breeding quality green dog with all the other criteria mentioned.  There are green dogs that are great dogs for work/sport but a truly great dog for breeding is to me another category.  Of course, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so one person might be OK breeding a dog another would not.  Also I don't see why someone should get a "deal" on a dog described by the OP.  People buy crapshoot puppies for $1500-$3500 so why would a breeding quality dog that already has known temperament, conformation, hips checked and possibly rated be in that same price category?

by heiko1 on 14 June 2011 - 02:06

I got my male pup at 8 months old, cost me $3,100. I know you are asking about females though. Good solid nerved dogs don't need socialization, it's the marginal ones that require it. My pup was never socialized, or exposed to different sights and sounds. 

I would never buy a dog this way if I did not trust the person 100%. He's 10 months old now, has drive up the wazoo and has zero issues with anything, crowds, loud noises, heights, various surfaces etc, etc. 

He was completly green, nothing done at all, but ball work a couple of times, no obedience no tracking no bitework. And he shows great promise in all three phases.

I did request for some videos to be made of him and sent to me, of various scenarios so I could better judge as well as see what his breeder owner was promoting.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 14 June 2011 - 03:06

Rik, Rik, Rik. Did you read my posts? I'm the seller, not the buyer.  cheeky I'm not buying anything; circumstances were quite different when I bought Capri, and frankly, she's set the bar too high for me to run out and buy some mediocre bitch for $5000 and start breeding her. I was just curious what was expected for this type dog because I had a few people who really surprised me. They seem to want to pay puppy price on a beautiful 2yr old proven bitch w/pretty nice lines, imho. I don't sell dogs to bargain hunters looking to buy cheap bitches and make a killing breeding them over and over and over. You want a nice quality bitch, you pay for her because you appreciate the qualities she brings to the table and you care about what you're breeding. You don't just breed whatever you can scrounge up for $2000 or less. BLECCHHH.no  Now, if someone isn't planning on making a living off the dog and will be a wonderful home for her, then by all means, make me an offer and we can talk. This is why I didn't put a price tag on her; I was afraid to scare someone off if I put a brood bitch price on her if they wanted her for a pet. Sure, I'd like to get more, but if the better home is the companion home, then I'll try to help that person get her, take payments, etc. 

Yes, VK- beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I am glad I'm on the same page w/others on price/value. I was pretty shocked, honestly; I thought I threw out a very very reasonable price, expecting to be asked what's wrong w/her or at least get a counter offer, and instead I got a "not interested at that price." I was thinking "WTF??" I actually went back and checked my email I sent to make sure I didn't make a typo or something and add a zero or a 1. LOL  


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 14 June 2011 - 03:06

Heiko, I'm confused on the socialization comment...where is the idea coming from that 'green' means somehow feral? LOL   Did I say something to that effect or that was taken that way? I sure didn't mean to. I think $3100 is at the high end of reasonable for a male that age and thanks a lot for sharing what you paid for and what you got. I think this is a good thing, for people to see what good dogs really cost. 

by heiko1 on 14 June 2011 - 04:06

"Whoa-  people say "green" and mean totally lacking foundation or undersocialized/underexposed? Yikes. That, to me, is not "green," those are problems."

Per your above quote, I addressed the issue that undersocialized/underexposed dogs are problem dogs. That is only the case with dogs lacking proper temperament and nerves.

If I misunderstood you, I apologize. 

mfh27

by mfh27 on 14 June 2011 - 05:06

I wouldn't consider a dog with just average prey drive, who is best suited for a busy family, as breed quality.  Thats just me. 

I don't get why breeders feel like they deserve top dollar for a dog that they didn't invest much money or time into.

So I'd pay puppy price, 1200 for average prey dog / family companion.  2000 for a top green bitch from someone who has never actively trained working or sport dogs.  3000 for a top green bitch from someone who knows what they are doing.  But I like them very green.  No tracking or obedience, and minimal bite development.  I'd rather do it myself and know I'm doing it right then hope someone else did it right.





 


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