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by hunger4justice on 02 March 2011 - 16:03
What about intelligent disobedience? What about when the handler is either incapacitated, distracted by multiple bad guys (I know too many mistakes already made, but it happens) and the dog alone decides what has to be done to save the handler's life and maybe his own. What about the kind of dog that can read people who are acting normal but have nefarious intent that then explodes? One of my dog's sires, a Tom Van't Leefdaalhof son saved his partner's life doing just that. In order to do so, there had to be bites to the face and that was not even the end of the fight. He was named Ohio dog hero of the year for that. One of my old dogs was like that, he could read people and he would respond accordingly, without command. Yes, he could be outed right away, yes, he did obey, but he did not have to be told. Jenn's dog is like that. I have been told by several officers that that type of dog is one in a million. If you correct a dog in the middle of the fight isn't there a potential problem if the dog is looking to you for guidance and you can't give it?

by LadyFrost on 02 March 2011 - 16:03
hunger...
thank you.
thank you.

by hunger4justice on 02 March 2011 - 17:03
Coming from you, Maili, I think it's a compliment. If you were my friend, I'd question my own character.
You probably won't understand this story:
An old Cherokee was teaching his grandchildren about life. He said to them, "A battle is raging inside me ... it is a terrible fight between two wolves. One wolf represents fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego. The other stands for joy, peace, love, hope, sharing, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, friendship, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith."
The old man fixed the children with a firm stare. "This same fight is going on inside you, and inside every other person, too."
They thought about it for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
The old Cherokee replied: "The one you feed."
You probably won't understand this story:
An old Cherokee was teaching his grandchildren about life. He said to them, "A battle is raging inside me ... it is a terrible fight between two wolves. One wolf represents fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego. The other stands for joy, peace, love, hope, sharing, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, friendship, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith."
The old man fixed the children with a firm stare. "This same fight is going on inside you, and inside every other person, too."
They thought about it for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
The old Cherokee replied: "The one you feed."
by contimali on 02 March 2011 - 17:03
Again it doesnt change the fact you are an absolute
GSD mod: Nor does it change what happened to you. See ya.
GSD mod: Nor does it change what happened to you. See ya.

by OGBS on 02 March 2011 - 17:03
Hunger,
It is funny that you defend someone for being attacked when that person was the one who did the attacking in the first place. (That is something the person in question might want to think about, as it is regular m.o. for her).
Since you have such great knowledge of what her dogs are doing all over the planet (ROFLMAO) enlighten us all so that we can be as impressed as you.
Oh, by the way, I own the mother of her male wonder dog, does that make her one in 2 million???
It is funny that you defend someone for being attacked when that person was the one who did the attacking in the first place. (That is something the person in question might want to think about, as it is regular m.o. for her).
Since you have such great knowledge of what her dogs are doing all over the planet (ROFLMAO) enlighten us all so that we can be as impressed as you.
Oh, by the way, I own the mother of her male wonder dog, does that make her one in 2 million???

by deacon on 02 March 2011 - 17:03
As a PSD handler trainer for over 30 years, Pirates video to me was a reminder to "ALWAYS" watch your dog in training be it sport, ppd, or le. No matter how realistic or ridiculous the scenario, the most important thing is the decoys safety!! In this case he prevented a bite to the head!! The handler should be applauded! Instead of using it as a training or safety lesson, once again the bashing starts!! How pathetic that people who would really like to learn must read the crap not associated with the true reason for posting this video. Thanks for posting it Pirate I shall remember to watch my dog a little closer this afternoon while doing aggression training in the suit!!

by GSDPACK on 02 March 2011 - 18:03
I thought it was a great save! crap not all training is peaches, roses and chocolate cakes. People will be bitten, Dogs will be hurt. All one can do is do the best by the helper and the dog. But then people who train on continuous basis, handled dogs for some time from just mediocre to trully hard to handle would know that SHIT happens.. and sometimes only after repetition, people and dogs can learn.
I have stiches... And we will see if I learned from that incident when it repeats itself. And it will since I will continue handling and training dogs till my body will allow me.
Oh I do have to agree with Jenni on one thing, never asume..so I reword my statement.. I dont know how others but when I had the (honor) to have a real life csenario it SUCKED ass.. sorry but that is the best I can do.. it was horryfying, violent, bloody and my dog almost died. I Quit after a year doing that type of a job. And never again. So I fought next to my dog even though I only prevented the stabbing, the rest was my dog's good job, my skinny ass was right next to my dog making sure we made it out together
..nothin honorable or fantastic or great about that.. it just happened. And I knew that if my dog didnt make it my chances getting out of there were slim.
I have stiches... And we will see if I learned from that incident when it repeats itself. And it will since I will continue handling and training dogs till my body will allow me.
Oh I do have to agree with Jenni on one thing, never asume..so I reword my statement.. I dont know how others but when I had the (honor) to have a real life csenario it SUCKED ass.. sorry but that is the best I can do.. it was horryfying, violent, bloody and my dog almost died. I Quit after a year doing that type of a job. And never again. So I fought next to my dog even though I only prevented the stabbing, the rest was my dog's good job, my skinny ass was right next to my dog making sure we made it out together
..nothin honorable or fantastic or great about that.. it just happened. And I knew that if my dog didnt make it my chances getting out of there were slim.

by LadyFrost on 02 March 2011 - 18:03
GSDPack....something so ironic in your post, are you trying to say you are 26 at heart going on 45 year old body? .... no offense, i don't know your age :) *** i typed this before you added the 2nd paragraph and than it did became ironic....
.....all jokes aside video was educational...personal attack posts not so much....
.....all jokes aside video was educational...personal attack posts not so much....

by GSDPACK on 02 March 2011 - 19:03
Where did you see that?
The incident happened when I was 18-19, stupid, invincible and Too young to have any business to do anything like that.. but when we are young we climb that rock and we look down, we think we can fly, now I look at the rock and just thought of climbing that wall makes me nauseous..
I always wanted to handle dogs in force.. yah, right no stomach for that one in my torso! hehehe and I did not feel like signing my life to the government like some in my family!
I am not 45!!!!! LOL but sometimes after a gym class I sure feel like it.
You guys make me smile!
The incident happened when I was 18-19, stupid, invincible and Too young to have any business to do anything like that.. but when we are young we climb that rock and we look down, we think we can fly, now I look at the rock and just thought of climbing that wall makes me nauseous..
I always wanted to handle dogs in force.. yah, right no stomach for that one in my torso! hehehe and I did not feel like signing my life to the government like some in my family!
I am not 45!!!!! LOL but sometimes after a gym class I sure feel like it.
You guys make me smile!

by Pirates Lair on 03 March 2011 - 01:03
ALPHAPUP - I'm not sure what you meant when you said - you better have 100% control of your dog
Our dogs are always under control, could you please provide a video example of what you consider to be a PPD under control (off leash please).
Your work as well please, not someone else's.
Just so you know, there is a short list of people who can "read me the riot act", and your names not it.
LOL
Kim
Our dogs are always under control, could you please provide a video example of what you consider to be a PPD under control (off leash please).
Your work as well please, not someone else's.
Just so you know, there is a short list of people who can "read me the riot act", and your names not it.
LOL
Kim
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