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by missbeeb on 16 December 2010 - 19:12
I'll try the sardines or mackrel Carole... I have a friend that likes fishing. Do you gut the mackrel? YUK
Sasha, there was a study / research done and the time scale was up to 3 months after vaccination for health issues to crop up; very few Vets will admit there could be a problem, it's too big a money spinner for them and the companies producing the vaccines.
ggturner, yes Rabies is a problem in many parts of Europe too, we are lucky here in that respect.

by Videx on 16 December 2010 - 19:12
This article may prove interesting in this thread:
CANINE IMMUNE SYSTEM PROBLEMS
"The GSD has more than its “fair share” of immune-related problems, and the clues usually appear in the intestines, eyes, skin, and other places. The breed has many individuals with a deficiency of a particular immunoglobulin called IgA, and this genetic defect may be very close on the chromosome to genes controlling general immune problems. However, we must remember that environmental “events” such as exposure to certain chemicals, and especially to multi-component and frequent vaccines, can be and probably is the greatest factor in the many cases of autoimmune disorders we have seen increase in the GSD and in many other breeds."
http://www.videxgsd.com/canine_immune_system_problems.htm

by missbeeb on 16 December 2010 - 20:12
Cheers for that David.
by Wildmoor on 16 December 2010 - 20:12
Babs
I have had one with severe immune problems pts just after the age of 5, he had severe adverse reactions to meat proteins and then went on to develop haemolytic aneamia, He was raised raw and continued to be fed raw until I ran out of options, his condition developed 10months after last vacination, as a few mentioned above I believe more genetics than other causes, infact with what David has mentioned above the last paper I read the conclusion was that they need look closer at the haplotype (?spelling) as certain of these markers are consistantly in GSDs with autoimmune conditions - the same ones maybe linked to various different autoimmune problems.
Pam

by missbeeb on 16 December 2010 - 20:12
I need to read the article properly, I've only skimmed through Pam.
What were your dogs symptoms?
by noddi on 16 December 2010 - 21:12
by Wildmoor on 16 December 2010 - 21:12
Hi Babs
Unable to maintain weight, muscle wastage, poor undercoat, fungal and bacterial skin problems, if he ate the wrong food his skin would go dark purple in his groin area and his fur would fall out, joint pain, hyperactive, when he was at his worse he would drop weight from 35kg to 29kg within a couple of weeks then he would improve and go back up to 35kg, I would have to go back through his records to get all his symptoms, he was maintained for the last couple of years on skinners Duck/rice with low doses of steroids - over the years I spent approx £4,000 maybe a bit more on various tests/biopsies etc plus in the last week I spent another £1200+ on 2 blood transfusions, coombs test etc when he developed the haemolytic aneamia at one stage his red blood cell count was down to 8% the descision was made in conjuction with the specialist to pts last Boxing Day. In his short life I did make that descision twice before but was talked out of it.
Pam

by missbeeb on 16 December 2010 - 21:12
Thanks Carole! I'll start with a very small one... don't fancy mackrel diarrhoea lol.
Babs

by missbeeb on 16 December 2010 - 21:12
by georgehopwood on 16 December 2010 - 21:12
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