lagging on a heel - Page 3

You do not say if you are walking for exercise or Training the Dog For a ScHH if you are just out Walking then you cannot expect a Dog to heel exactly how you want for any length of time
Also when Training on the Field in SchH work in Obed again you cannot expect a Dog to stay focused for huge periods of time it is not realistic and certainly not needed for the dog will go stale
15 minutes is enough in training at one go then with the Long Down again the Dog is focusing say 10 to 15 minutes Max is enough, Training and Rewards go together, You will not go to work if you are not going to be paid so thats the same for the Dog, Rewards come in many forms Voice Treats Ball etc find out which the Dog likes best but do not keep changing things round, If the Dog, Always finish a training session with a game with the Dog if it likes its Ball then play with it for a minute or two before you leave the field
Steve1

Lagging on heal,
Move quicker.


Moons.

Yes, I have done a bit of SchH training, So That was a question to you, so what you do to keep the dog with you is to do a left and right turns without the dog knowing where you are turning next, that way the Pup will think I have to keep up here and watch you after a while it will come to it that it has to keep up but every time it foots in the correct place it must be rewarded
its as simple as that, and should be put right in a short time, Personally i have never had any problems in 60 years getting a Dog to walk in the postition i want it too, and i do not use any other collar but a flat leather collar to train it in at the beginning as a pup to around 12 months old, but i also put on a fur saver collar at the same time and use on occasions so the pup gets used to the feel of it
Steve1

Foxy ... a qualified comment here , as i cannot see you or your dog . BUT to share with what i have seen from others i have worked with ....... DID YOU EVER THINK THE DOG LAGS ... NOT BECAUSE OF YOUR  'TRAINING ' BUT BECAUSE OF .. YOU OR it's TEMPERAMENT.   yes ....  you ...... i do not mean this as a personal commentary or an personal assualut .. but a constructive input. i have seen  quite a many have this problem ..... for some dogs i have seen perfect heels UNTIL  [for one] .. the environmet changes !! or the context in the dog's head changes. i always look at the temperament of the dog , the life's experiences. and Ultimately  the REALATIONSHIP of dog / YOU the owner. Here in lies you answer and solutioon . forget about technques . 1. what is the level of stress your dog handles as it relates to your dog's temperament and personality . e.g i have seen some dogs lag as a result of >>>> [although they were taught a perfect heel]  becasue they do not feel inside safe .. or trustworthy enough being next to their owner in a different context . that  is or the owner will maintain safety /kep them safe . As a reult of an insecutiry / a perception they harbour ..  they do not want to heel and try to avoid the heel by lagging. On one hand they have to  but they aren't thinking about ' heel'. Lack of performance can be from a temperament flaw , or a realtionship flaw. one may think they have a great realtionship but in truth one may not. e.g  BEFORE any teaching is undertaken i make sure my pups understand , expeience , feel that the places either next to me , in front of me . or anywhere around me is the safest , most pleasing , most rewarding location in the whole wide world.if they have a temperament flaw then it is my duty to recognize it and accomodate to help them. if they are sound and confident  then later the so called heel / recall ... well there is no such recall /heel exercise. the behavior is more : ' you have my permission to come to me". there is no heel ... but rather you have my permission to walk next to me , where you feel safe and secure. AND if from your flawed temperament then you will have learned that being next to me .. you can count on and trust that you WILL BE SAFE /secure and loved. now this is only one dissection .. i could go on .[thank goodness i don't]. but if you want a solution...  you need to know your dog and you need to know your relationship .. these are the functions that determine behavior. stop of thinking of quick fixes as how do i get my dog to do this or that.

Yawn..........

ALPHAPUP,

I do believe my dog has a "temperment flaw".  She has a bit of fear in her (genetic).  So, from the start I knew our bond would be important and her abiltiy to trust me and follow my direction and leadership would be criticial to building her confidence.  

I feel that the first 2 times I took her into the ring at a dog show, she was not comfortable.  I felt this was a result of her temperment. 

I appreciate your thoughts on focusing on this aspect.   She is only 2, would you suggest that doing more work out at dog shows, in public, places where she is nervous is the answer???  Build her trust in me in those environments.  She certainly knows how to heel and can do it flawlessly at home.   Any other ideas?

Cara