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by Blitzen on 27 April 2012 - 12:04
What's an "honest accident"?
by beetree on 27 April 2012 - 12:04
LOL@Blitzen, lots of wiggle room there! That was always my definition of manslaughter. 


by aceofspades on 29 April 2012 - 00:04
I would think an honest accident could likely cover many things but to me it would imPly death that was truly unintentional in nature and the buyer completely honest in what happened and there are no holes or fishiness in the story like they aren't telling the whole truth.
. For example when I got Janna we had our septic tanks pumped and the waste guy did not put the cap or cover back on the second tank and I was completely unaware as it is part of his job. I don't know if he got sidetracked or what. He has pumped our tanks multiple times in the 12 years we have been here and this has never happened.. Our tank is very difficult to get to and not someplace I would ever enter (under our deck which is less than 3 feet off of the ground and has lattice fencing all the way around, you have to belly crawl under the deck to get to them) I was out in the yard in the afternoon after the waste guy had been. Our dogs like to sleep under there because it is cool and Janna followed a big dog under and subsequently fell IN to the septic tank (gross) thankfully she was fished out, bless my husband for suiting up and going right in to the tank, and was no worse for wear but if she had died I think that would have been an honest to goodness unfortunate accident. An at fault accident would be someone who has no fence and no runs for their dogs and they leave them outside when the go out and their dog gets hit by a car. The dog died from an accident caused by intentional negligence. Or someone has plants in their yard that they know are poison to dogs and do nothing to prevent the dog from gettin to them. Or they leave their dogs In the garage and they leave jugs of antifreeze on a shelf low enough for the pupoy to get to and the puppy chews through the jug and gets sick and dies.
. For example when I got Janna we had our septic tanks pumped and the waste guy did not put the cap or cover back on the second tank and I was completely unaware as it is part of his job. I don't know if he got sidetracked or what. He has pumped our tanks multiple times in the 12 years we have been here and this has never happened.. Our tank is very difficult to get to and not someplace I would ever enter (under our deck which is less than 3 feet off of the ground and has lattice fencing all the way around, you have to belly crawl under the deck to get to them) I was out in the yard in the afternoon after the waste guy had been. Our dogs like to sleep under there because it is cool and Janna followed a big dog under and subsequently fell IN to the septic tank (gross) thankfully she was fished out, bless my husband for suiting up and going right in to the tank, and was no worse for wear but if she had died I think that would have been an honest to goodness unfortunate accident. An at fault accident would be someone who has no fence and no runs for their dogs and they leave them outside when the go out and their dog gets hit by a car. The dog died from an accident caused by intentional negligence. Or someone has plants in their yard that they know are poison to dogs and do nothing to prevent the dog from gettin to them. Or they leave their dogs In the garage and they leave jugs of antifreeze on a shelf low enough for the pupoy to get to and the puppy chews through the jug and gets sick and dies.

by aceofspades on 29 April 2012 - 00:04
Or if a puppy does of bloat. Even experienced owners can lose a dog/pup to bloat. That is no fault of the buyer and I believe it would warrant replacement.

by starrchar on 03 May 2012 - 17:05
I thought I should update on this situation. The breeders have changed their stance and are now offering to replace the puppy. I don't want to go into detail, but it was not a simple ordeal.
by beetree on 03 May 2012 - 17:05
Starrchar,
Thank goodness for your family member, the breeder did the right thing in the end. As far as this not being a simple ordeal, by the time these issues hit these boards, they never are, are they?
All's well that ends well.
Thank goodness for your family member, the breeder did the right thing in the end. As far as this not being a simple ordeal, by the time these issues hit these boards, they never are, are they?
All's well that ends well.
by magdalenasins on 05 May 2012 - 14:05
Happy endings, not enough of them really but great to hear!

by Sunsilver on 05 May 2012 - 16:05
I am very glad to hear that, Charlene! HURRAY!
(I've always liked that particular breeder, and am glad she came through for you...)
(I've always liked that particular breeder, and am glad she came through for you...)

by starrchar on 06 May 2012 - 23:05
Yes, we are very happy about the outcome. I PM'd you.

by Ramage on 08 May 2012 - 14:05
I would absolutely offer a replacement puppy. It just seems wrong not to. Perhaps it was not a genetic issue, but still ... very sad they lost their puppy like that. I'd not feel right about myself if I didn't offer a replacement.
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