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by Cat on 22 June 2009 - 05:06

by killarneyhausgsds on 27 June 2009 - 17:06

by ladywolf45169 on 27 June 2009 - 17:06
by eichenluft on 27 June 2009 - 20:06
molly

by TashaGSD on 27 June 2009 - 22:06
The one 5 year old female was Completely Solid Black and now this year has developed on the Inside of both her thighs a round white patch of hair about the size of a softball, aging white like some dogs get on the chin?
The male has gold/tan in between his toes as does another female who now at almost 3 years of age is getting tan hairs on her hocks.
So obviously time can change throughout the years what WAS a completely solid black.

by Jenni78 on 28 June 2009 - 02:06

by darylehret on 28 June 2009 - 06:06
My answer for your consensus? Black is black, and known from birth. I never see the need to add "solid" to the description, but would say instead "black, with a white tuft on the chest" or "black, with pink pigment" or something similar. "True" or "Solid" black is like saying "True" or "Solid" german shepherd, a subjective statement that's going to hold a different meaning for a lot of people. Amazing how frequently a dog's true character often takes a backseat to what true color it happens to be. There's enough breeders that are out to produce exclusively for black, that it's hard to believe it's considered rare. Perhaps rare to get a value rating like kkl1 or VA status, I suppose. Perhaps too much emphasis in the color deserves to be classed second-rate.
Don't get me wrong, I like my dogs purdy, too! It's just plainly clear to me that nothing productive will ever result from debating around subjective opinions, consensus or not. But, having a common vocabulary would be awfully nice anyway. A touch off topic, but you know, there's a few various sports that fuction perfectly well without the use of a judge or referee at all, like timed competitions using a stopwatch laser sensor instead. That's what this breed needs. Eliminate most of the political crap from the get go. The only major problem I can identify, is that the use of a helper seems necessary for a C phase, and that the human-involved factor can make or break any dog unfairly.

by Two Moons on 28 June 2009 - 06:06
A black is a black, no one ever said anything about solid..
A rock is a solid.
A Bi-color is a Bi-color.
There are standards for each.
A black dog will sun burn just like a black horse, redish brown shades.
Old dogs grow grey hair just like old humans.
At least they don't go bald....:)
Moons.

by Jenni78 on 29 June 2009 - 23:06
Not all black dog sunburn. Like horses...some stay true black in the sun and some don't. There is a recognized difference in some breeds, Friesians for one that I know of.
One of my black dogs fades a bit when blowing coat, the other doesn't. There is a difference, somewhere.
Why differentiate at all then if it doesn't make a difference? Why the insistence that almost all black dogs have some other color somewhere if it makes no difference?
No one yet has been able to answer AT WHAT AGE WOULD YOU CONCEDE THE FREAKING DOG IS BLACK AND IS NOT GOING TO DEVELOP ANY OTHER COLOR ANYWHERE? I was hoping Molly would answer this, as she is the one who first stated that most develop some type of fading/other color in hidden places like between toes, etc.
No such luck. I quit. LOL.
by diesel on 30 June 2009 - 14:06
Also a link to a UK breeder of show line black GSD's - http://www.fouranfass-gsds.co.uk/index.php
I've never understood the use of the term "solid" when describing a "black" dog and often wondered if it was either an attempt to make the colour sound somewhat more desirable or maybe because people are a little embarrassed to have a dog that is totally black

Personally, as long as it basically resembles a GSD - ie 2 ears, 4 legs, tail etc - it could be yellow with pink spots as long as it WORKS


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