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by Pharaoh on 09 March 2012 - 05:03
My dog got campylobacter while eating kibble many years ago. That incident was one that made me brave enough to go with raw feeding.
Michele
Michele
by laura271 on 09 March 2012 - 15:03
I agree with Euroshepherd.
I raw feed but buy my meat directly from the local farmer or some through a small raw feeding business that deals directly with farmers. I don't get crazy deals (like $.59 per pound) but I know exactly what the chickens, lambs, goats, cows, etc were fed and that they were raised humanely. I also pay the farmer a living wage - this is very important to my husband who is a farm kid. When I tell him about the great deals that other raw feeders find, he just shrugs and says: "Great- so a little guy got squeezed and another family farm gets closer to going under.". I'm very sorry if I sound like sanctimonious jack*ss but we choose to support the "farm for profit" movement in Ontario. I'll note that my in-laws' best customers for their grass fed organic beef are raw feeders. :)
I raw feed but buy my meat directly from the local farmer or some through a small raw feeding business that deals directly with farmers. I don't get crazy deals (like $.59 per pound) but I know exactly what the chickens, lambs, goats, cows, etc were fed and that they were raised humanely. I also pay the farmer a living wage - this is very important to my husband who is a farm kid. When I tell him about the great deals that other raw feeders find, he just shrugs and says: "Great- so a little guy got squeezed and another family farm gets closer to going under.". I'm very sorry if I sound like sanctimonious jack*ss but we choose to support the "farm for profit" movement in Ontario. I'll note that my in-laws' best customers for their grass fed organic beef are raw feeders. :)
by Sunsilver on 09 March 2012 - 16:03
Michelle, how do you know the raw chicken you feed is free of Camplyobacter? It's a common bacterial contaminate in grocery store chicken.
by Pharaoh on 09 March 2012 - 19:03
Sunny,
I don't know if the chicken is free of campylobater. I mostly feed Foster Farms Chicken and I used to be able to get Rocky chickens relatively cheap. But, now that I live in Poverty Paradise, I sometimes use "who knows what it is" chicken quarters.
One of the aspects of raw feeding is the dog's stomach acid is brought up to predator/scavenger strength and kills off pathogens.
When I had the horrible experience with campylobacter (diagnosed by testing), it was a followup to recurring Giardia. That was before I discovered Panacur and raw feeding. Both Shadow and Phantom were able to test negative for Giardia on the expensive lab test. Both dogs developed iron stomachs after switching to raw. They finished out the rest of their lives with no stomach problem.
Honestly, after so many years of "crap", I found the courage to go raw.
Pharaoh and Mariah have never had to go through all that suffering as they started their lives on raw feeding.
Mariah is a horrible devious beast monster. She has twice gotten hold of a whole raw chicken that was defrosting in the sink. She got it out of the house undetected (skilled thief that she is). Of course, she did not share it with Pharaoh. All that happened was smellly farts from gorging. Now that she is almost the same size as Pharaoh, gorging a whole chicken is more comfortable for the "little" monster.
Michele
I don't know if the chicken is free of campylobater. I mostly feed Foster Farms Chicken and I used to be able to get Rocky chickens relatively cheap. But, now that I live in Poverty Paradise, I sometimes use "who knows what it is" chicken quarters.
One of the aspects of raw feeding is the dog's stomach acid is brought up to predator/scavenger strength and kills off pathogens.
When I had the horrible experience with campylobacter (diagnosed by testing), it was a followup to recurring Giardia. That was before I discovered Panacur and raw feeding. Both Shadow and Phantom were able to test negative for Giardia on the expensive lab test. Both dogs developed iron stomachs after switching to raw. They finished out the rest of their lives with no stomach problem.
Honestly, after so many years of "crap", I found the courage to go raw.
Pharaoh and Mariah have never had to go through all that suffering as they started their lives on raw feeding.
Mariah is a horrible devious beast monster. She has twice gotten hold of a whole raw chicken that was defrosting in the sink. She got it out of the house undetected (skilled thief that she is). Of course, she did not share it with Pharaoh. All that happened was smellly farts from gorging. Now that she is almost the same size as Pharaoh, gorging a whole chicken is more comfortable for the "little" monster.
Michele
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