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MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 19 February 2011 - 16:02


If you talk to a German breeder especially rottweiler breeders,
which is a very old breed. Soft, Hard, and Sharp are used to
evaluate your breeding goals. In the coarse of a conversation
 here is this country, these terms can mean any thing but there original use.
This is confusing to the Germans when they try to talk to
Americans without first having to explain what the terms mean
as they apply to breeding a working dog. It was much more excepted
only 15 years ago, I don't know what happened. Maybe the Internet?

In horses a soft and supple horse is the goal of every trainer,
for handling purposes. With the German or Belgium Warm bloods it is
paramont in Dressage.

So let us saddle up......Time to train our dogs!!!

SchaeferhundSchH

by SchaeferhundSchH on 19 February 2011 - 16:02

Mainlymax for the sake if further discussion I was wondering if you could cover the definitions in a little more detail. ---------------------- "Soft dog is a good mind that learns well and relaxed but does not have the qualities the other 2 have. Note you want your dog soft and supple, partly from training and partly from breeding. Hard dog can stay in the fight and take pressure. But does not have what the other 2 have. Sharp dog is in your face kind of dog that will not avoid a fight and will be more likely to bite for real.....Something confused with civil drive. But does not have what the other 2 have." ¿------------------------ Could you describe some specific behaviors you can observe through interactions and training, that would help depict betweenthese separate descriptions. I would also be interested to hear more about the pros and cons of each. Thank you.

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 19 February 2011 - 17:02

Schaef, look up the Armin Winkler artlicles before you get confused.

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 19 February 2011 - 17:02

SchaeferhundSchH,


I will give 2 very good examples because they are my horse and one my dogs.
Both females both are very well bred for work.

They are my best and my problem children...

How do I make these wild cats work like they should without
being combative....

First they both love me and respect me.... I am fair, but I don't
stand for alot of tizzy fits... They are both very athletic and enjoy
the work.

I have absolutely reduced all the variables needed for a world champion
horse and dog.....Bred perfect. But little hellians.

For my horse to do a snaffle bit she must be strong and supple.

When cutting a calf she must be very easy and gentle, but when
she is running the fence she must be fast and take control of
the calf. The judges want to see that horse powerful with a lot
fast get and snap. Not slow and no go.....
A weak horse who wants to spent their time lazily grazing
don't bother me attitude will not make it.
It takes a wildcat to win....but training one is a different story.
The aw-ha light does not go on in your head until you have their
respect and can focus them on the task they have been bred to
do. And than nature takes over and you are now riding a fine working
horse and having the time of your life....You my have to take a bronc ride or
two, but you will never be satisfied with less. The training pays off and
you baby girl goes from a wildcat to a soft and supple champion workhorse.

The biggest mistake we make is push to fast and not letting the horse or dog
mature. If they are bred well they out grow alot of issues.

The biggest variable, is the bond you have with your dog or horse. Some trainers
have all their ducks in a row but still have a weak bond. Dogs know if you are sincere
don't let anyone tell different.

Soft is a good mind ....but may not want to confront a shifty character

Hard is a dog that can take pressure but my not have a good mind.
He may fight you all the way through his training, until you just give up.

Sharp is a dog that will bite for real and is a barker. But may not handle
pressure well like a hard dog. And may be a little nutty without a good mind.

So you try to breed the good parts to get the perfect balanced dog for work.




Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 19 February 2011 - 18:02

Just go to www.schutzhundvillage.com and read "Dog Terms: Part 1" and "Part 2".

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 19 February 2011 - 19:02

When you take chemistry 101 your professor will wait until the
end of the semester to give you Maxwell theory. It combine the 3
major theories into one....That's when you understand, until than
you are pulling your hair out to grasp it.

Soft, hard and sharp ... is the theory of balance like Maxwell's Theory. (Max)

Maxwell demonstrated that electric and magnetic fields travel through space in the form of waves, and at the constant speed of light. In 1864 Maxwell wrote A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field. It was with this that he first proposed that light was in fact undulations in the same medium that is the cause of electric and magnetic phenomena.[4] His work in producing a unified model of electromagnetism is one of the greatest advances in physics



Never the less I to recommend you buy Der Shutzhund. It is a very good resource. (Max)

(Armin Winkler) says about Der Schutzhund......(about being on the same page)
"What impresses me about the discussion of drives every time I read Helmut Raiser's book is that he simply dissects the material on a scientific basis. He does not try to make the theory fit his practical techniques, on the contrary he willingly admits to his own past mistakes, and tries to improve his practical skill by better understanding the theory behind it. I will probably summarize the practical applications of these theories at some time in the future. For people who can't wait, the full length version is available in my translation of the book Der Schutzhund."


I think people just want some practical examples to better understand.
and that is what they get in the Max Zone... (Max)

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 19 February 2011 - 19:02

Max, it would be wise if you use quotation marks around other people's words. I'd hate to have people get confused and think they are your own words.

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 19 February 2011 - 19:02

Don,
Thanks, because I was confused.

Jim

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 19 February 2011 - 19:02

Don,

They are my own words.......

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 19 February 2011 - 19:02

Jim I have put the quotation mark in, hope it helps.
Glad to see you both reading my post.





 


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