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by Krazy Bout K9s on 15 March 2010 - 15:03
Amanda and Jenni,
I too have adopted to people with an apartment and/or Townhouse. I first have to meet the people and approve, but yes, usually they spend more time with their dogs than the big yard owners, that just turn the dog out and let them fend for themselves, thinking that they have this big yard, I don't need to spend time with the dog...
My first dog I ever owned was a Bull Terrier, then a GSD puppy and I lived in an apartment. Those dogs went everywhere with me, I was only 18, and I did everything with those dogs too, the BT even got her tracking degree and the GSD was totally obedience trained on and off lead by the time he was 6 months old...they went to the lake, hikes in the woods, took them up to the cabin, went to work with me, (I owned my own shop then), everywhere, so yes, dogs do get adopted to an apartment person, depending on the person...
Steph
I too have adopted to people with an apartment and/or Townhouse. I first have to meet the people and approve, but yes, usually they spend more time with their dogs than the big yard owners, that just turn the dog out and let them fend for themselves, thinking that they have this big yard, I don't need to spend time with the dog...
My first dog I ever owned was a Bull Terrier, then a GSD puppy and I lived in an apartment. Those dogs went everywhere with me, I was only 18, and I did everything with those dogs too, the BT even got her tracking degree and the GSD was totally obedience trained on and off lead by the time he was 6 months old...they went to the lake, hikes in the woods, took them up to the cabin, went to work with me, (I owned my own shop then), everywhere, so yes, dogs do get adopted to an apartment person, depending on the person...
Steph
by Krazy Bout K9s on 15 March 2010 - 15:03
Also, Kimmelot,
Yes, I had someone want a GSD puppy from me, I turned them down, because they had a 4 yr old boy, they lived next to the forest service boundary, unfenced, and wanted a puppy to grow up with their little boy to protect him from the wild animals that come onto their property, to basically baby sit the boy. I asked if they left their kid out the back yard by himself and they said sure, he like to explore the woods, BY HIMSELF!!!!!...yeh right with no fence, with bears, cougars coming around regularily...I wouldn't even adopt an older dog to them...
They did buy a puppy from an ad in the paper, then continued for 2 months to call and ask me how to train that pup, they were having problems with the puppy biting their kid...how do we make it stop, how do we potty train it, it won't stop peeing in the house, won't stop jumping one the kid, etc....I did work with those people for 2 months and it wasn't even one of my dogs...
So I don't feel I was wrong in not adopting anything to them, at least it wasn't one of my dogs I had to worry about...getting killed by a wild animal. Or lost..
Steph
Yes, I had someone want a GSD puppy from me, I turned them down, because they had a 4 yr old boy, they lived next to the forest service boundary, unfenced, and wanted a puppy to grow up with their little boy to protect him from the wild animals that come onto their property, to basically baby sit the boy. I asked if they left their kid out the back yard by himself and they said sure, he like to explore the woods, BY HIMSELF!!!!!...yeh right with no fence, with bears, cougars coming around regularily...I wouldn't even adopt an older dog to them...
They did buy a puppy from an ad in the paper, then continued for 2 months to call and ask me how to train that pup, they were having problems with the puppy biting their kid...how do we make it stop, how do we potty train it, it won't stop peeing in the house, won't stop jumping one the kid, etc....I did work with those people for 2 months and it wasn't even one of my dogs...
So I don't feel I was wrong in not adopting anything to them, at least it wasn't one of my dogs I had to worry about...getting killed by a wild animal. Or lost..
Steph
by CrysBuck25 on 15 March 2010 - 16:03
I'm proof that Steph does adopt GSD to people with kids under five, BUT...
I have prior experience with GSD, one that was not the strongest temperament in history. I trained him, I worked with his quirks. With Annie Oakley, the blind rescue pup that Steph adopted to me, I have had very little trouble. When she's really wound up and excited, she can still tend to be just a touch jumpy, but I find that to be an issue only when our other dog is wound up, primarily because Misty is a Border Collie Mix, and tends to be in a perpetual state of excitement, which Oakley is extremely tuned to, being that she relies on other senses instead of her vision.
She is very good about not chewing on things, she will stay in a crate quietly for quite a long time, she's housebroken, she knows sit, stay and quiet. I haven't worked her in formal obedience, though we will be starting that as soon as I finish up this year's tax returns.
People with kids can adopt GSD from rescue but there will be more difficulty, as the rescue needs to know that you know the breed, you are the one in control of your kids, and that you are willing to take the time to give the dog what it needs.
Crys
I have prior experience with GSD, one that was not the strongest temperament in history. I trained him, I worked with his quirks. With Annie Oakley, the blind rescue pup that Steph adopted to me, I have had very little trouble. When she's really wound up and excited, she can still tend to be just a touch jumpy, but I find that to be an issue only when our other dog is wound up, primarily because Misty is a Border Collie Mix, and tends to be in a perpetual state of excitement, which Oakley is extremely tuned to, being that she relies on other senses instead of her vision.
She is very good about not chewing on things, she will stay in a crate quietly for quite a long time, she's housebroken, she knows sit, stay and quiet. I haven't worked her in formal obedience, though we will be starting that as soon as I finish up this year's tax returns.
People with kids can adopt GSD from rescue but there will be more difficulty, as the rescue needs to know that you know the breed, you are the one in control of your kids, and that you are willing to take the time to give the dog what it needs.
Crys
by Kimmelot on 15 March 2010 - 16:03
My problem is that there are not enough "Amandas" for me to justify selling puppies to people in Appartments.. In the past when I did let a dog go to an appartment, the dog came back to me quickly. Its just enough for me to be bias..
Another reason I want my dogs to have a home, rental or not, is because dogs should NOT live in the house all day long. They need to get sunshine and fresh air and have free choice to excersize and pound the ground a little. I love it that most people treat there dogs like family , however I also have disclosed in my Guarantee that the puppy must have alone time outside where its not being smoothered by children and it can mentaly decompress.
Steph, My 2 year old runs around smacking my dogs all day long, the diffrence is that a little baby is not going to hit as hard or as seriously as an adult would if punishing a dog ( not saying its right ). If he get's nibbled back its ok with me , we have a 7 month old that he activley plays with and she mouths him back if he rough plays with her ( not saying its ok to hit we are working with him). She is forgiving and stable minded.. now I can say for your rescues you cannot be sure what they have been threw or if there breeding will cause them to snap one day etc.. so I totaly understand not wanting to rescue out to a family with small kids.. What you said is EXACTLY what I new, that if you don't sell them the right match they will just go and grab whatever they please.. does not mean its your responciblity and it is so nice that you tried to help them anyways.
Gawd.. some parents to let there kid rome around a forest alone.. geesh.. I let my 2 year old out in the yard, but its fenced and locked and yes there are dogs in the yard with him.. worse case he get's dog poop on his shoes.. Those people need to invest in a fence.
I totaly appreciate hearing your views Steph :)
by Kimmelot on 15 March 2010 - 17:03
Here is what NOT to do .
Don't tell people that because a puppy is sitting at your feet that it has chosen you.. that is such BS.
Don't let people also pick puppies because they are the most active , bitting at hands and playing with them.. those are the most drivey of the litter - and people ( pet buyers) don't have a clue what they are getting into.
We Volhard all of our puppies, anyone that has left a deposit has to wait until they are 7 weeks old to find out which one is the best match for them. If they don't like the puppy I am offering they are welcome to wait until the next litter. Personality is everything.. agian agian.. cant say it enough.
Mrs. Whisper Gray
Don't tell people that because a puppy is sitting at your feet that it has chosen you.. that is such BS.
Don't let people also pick puppies because they are the most active , bitting at hands and playing with them.. those are the most drivey of the litter - and people ( pet buyers) don't have a clue what they are getting into.
We Volhard all of our puppies, anyone that has left a deposit has to wait until they are 7 weeks old to find out which one is the best match for them. If they don't like the puppy I am offering they are welcome to wait until the next litter. Personality is everything.. agian agian.. cant say it enough.
Mrs. Whisper Gray
by Krazy Bout K9s on 15 March 2010 - 17:03
"We Volhard all of our puppies, anyone that has left a deposit has to wait until they are 7 weeks old to find out which one is the best match for them. If they don't like the puppy I am offering they are welcome to wait until the next litter. Personality is everything.. agian agian.. cant say it enough."
I totally agree, I had a former breeder friend, that tried to let anyone just pick a puppy from 4 weeks old...I told them NO,. the pups will be evaluated at 7 weeks and THEN, the person would get the pup that fit them, the people said no they didn't want that pup, that he let them choose at 4 weeks, GRRRRRR and their money was refunded...all that breeder cared about was the almighty dollar in his pocket...he would also sell to anyone that gave him the money...he didn't care where it went and he would not take a dog back either... I would never, ever refer anyone to him ever again....
Kimmelot, I was refering to an under 5yr old hitting a pup, 8 week to 12 week old...That would harm the puppy, especially when the 9-12 week stage is their fearful stage...
An older puppy is better able to handle it...
Steph
I totally agree, I had a former breeder friend, that tried to let anyone just pick a puppy from 4 weeks old...I told them NO,. the pups will be evaluated at 7 weeks and THEN, the person would get the pup that fit them, the people said no they didn't want that pup, that he let them choose at 4 weeks, GRRRRRR and their money was refunded...all that breeder cared about was the almighty dollar in his pocket...he would also sell to anyone that gave him the money...he didn't care where it went and he would not take a dog back either... I would never, ever refer anyone to him ever again....
Kimmelot, I was refering to an under 5yr old hitting a pup, 8 week to 12 week old...That would harm the puppy, especially when the 9-12 week stage is their fearful stage...
An older puppy is better able to handle it...
Steph
by Krazy Bout K9s on 15 March 2010 - 17:03
Kimmelot,
I agree with the outside time, I never had kids, <G> and neither did the gal I adopted a very small, skittesh 2 yr old Purebred GSD to...she lived in an apartment. But had lots of outside camping time with her dog.
She was the best thing that happened to that dog.
I got Shadow originally with a litter of black lab cross pups on her, when Shadow was only 9 months old, no one wanted to take on a GSD along with 1 week old pups on her. She was so wormy and afraid of everything, she maybe weighed 35 pounds...I supplemented both her and the pups, and they grew wonderfully. I did take her off way early, because she just didnt' have any milk production. She was skin and bones, anyhow, sorry got carried away.
She was so afraid of everyone that I figured I would never get her adopted out, but I could do anything with her, so I decided to keep her, she went everywhere with me, thus her name, Shadow...she would slink around and hide, whenever anyone came over to look at other dogs.
Well a gal came to look at a different dog, to play with her male GSD and the other female attacked her male, didn't like the dog at all...darn...then she saw Shadow and immediately fell in love, I told her she wasn't available, and she said could she just try walking her, well, Shadow took to her like a duck in water, and loved on her male...I had to make a decision that was best for the dog. Shadow would have her one on one with the gal and another dog that she loved...
I did let her go and never regretted it. She blossomed beautifully and the gal followed up with pics and updates regularily...
Anyhow...I still miss her, she was a special dog...
Steph
I agree with the outside time, I never had kids, <G> and neither did the gal I adopted a very small, skittesh 2 yr old Purebred GSD to...she lived in an apartment. But had lots of outside camping time with her dog.
She was the best thing that happened to that dog.
I got Shadow originally with a litter of black lab cross pups on her, when Shadow was only 9 months old, no one wanted to take on a GSD along with 1 week old pups on her. She was so wormy and afraid of everything, she maybe weighed 35 pounds...I supplemented both her and the pups, and they grew wonderfully. I did take her off way early, because she just didnt' have any milk production. She was skin and bones, anyhow, sorry got carried away.
She was so afraid of everyone that I figured I would never get her adopted out, but I could do anything with her, so I decided to keep her, she went everywhere with me, thus her name, Shadow...she would slink around and hide, whenever anyone came over to look at other dogs.
Well a gal came to look at a different dog, to play with her male GSD and the other female attacked her male, didn't like the dog at all...darn...then she saw Shadow and immediately fell in love, I told her she wasn't available, and she said could she just try walking her, well, Shadow took to her like a duck in water, and loved on her male...I had to make a decision that was best for the dog. Shadow would have her one on one with the gal and another dog that she loved...
I did let her go and never regretted it. She blossomed beautifully and the gal followed up with pics and updates regularily...
Anyhow...I still miss her, she was a special dog...
Steph
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