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http://www.scbdfc.com/7things.htm Something I came across.
Just wondering more about HSUS cause the org I am working with to get grant $ to train service dogs...one of the places we were going to look in to funding was HSUS. If they are so agains people having pets then why would they give $ for service dogs?
There might be certain towns that have a spay policy but that is more so no thanks to Bob Barker.Something I read a while back LA was going to have that law that ALL pets had to be neutered unless it was a compitition dog or guard etc.I think it is a bunch of crap!! Anyone that tried to touch my dogs to neuter them is going to get neutered themselves!!! I worked as a vet tech i would have no problem doing it to someone that messed with my dogs or took my rights away from me. So if that were to be the case of NO pets then I guess the Prez would have to give his PWD up and the VP would have to give up his GSD.

Oh and this is bad!! http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/48174?tstart=0  Doesn't Oprah have dogs....

The agenda isn't meant to work that fast, LAVK-9.  To just get rid of all domesticated animals in one fell swoop would cause mass outrage and wouldn't work, couldn't work.  No, the plan is a great deal more detailed than that, and far more gradual.  By aiming their propaganda at children, they begin to change the minds of the young with regard to how animals are viewed, by creating buzz words, such as changing "pet" which signifies a lesser being to "companion" which signifies an equal, etc.  By funding service dog training and such, it makes them seem a lot less threatening, and even helpful, towards animals.  Low cost spay and neuter clinics are funded by them too, but these are meant to further reduce the animals enslaved by humans.  Of course, a lot of us know that these low cost spay and neuter clinics are a good thing, because it does reduce the number of unwanted dogs and puppies, and cats, as well, from being dumped.  But added to that the mandatory spay and neuter laws they are funding in most major cities, it becomes yet another cog in their plans.  The best way to do something bad is to make it look good, or to clothe it in something that is good...Wolf in sheep's clothing.

Who ever heard of a kennel license to possess more than three animals twenty years ago?  Fifty years?  Seventy five years?  Nope, they're new.  Were there not unwanted dogs back in the day before spay and neuter, back when Fido sowed his wild oats any time he wanted, and the neighbors had puppies? 

Both of my dogs are spayed, Oakley at nine weeks before I got her, and Misty at seven months of age.  I didn't strongly agree with the idea, but I had no choice with one, and without a completely impenetrable fence, I wasn't taking any chances.  Will I some day have a bitch or dog that I don't have fixed until physical maturity?  Yes.  I want, some day in the future, to have a pup to train and compete, perhaps in Schutzhund or some type of work, and I won't be told by some lackey with no brains that I can't have an unspayed dog because the law prohibits it. 

There is way too much government today, way too much concern with the workings of the ordinary man, too much invasion of what is fundamentally not ANY government's business.

Groups like PETA and HSUS have no problem if their agenda takes a couple of generations to come to fruition...Haste makes waste, especially with public perception.  Go slow and make sure they don't see through your spin...

Take it however you want, but it's not hard to see what the goals are...Read their websites, their mission statements, the views of their top people.

But if you decide to back them, don't ever take the "Don't Wear Animals" leather campaign to a biker rally and throw stuff at them for using/wearing leather....It won't be good.

Crys

Well I couldn't back them as I don't believe in well anything that they say really. Thank you for the info Crys.As much as they might fund our org and who knows maybe they would give us all that we need for the year of having a few dogs to train.In the back of my mind would be all the bs that they are about.It would be like taking blood money.Might just not bother with getting funding from them.There are some things that I can agree on but they are going to extreems with things that just are insane!! They are like a cult!! I mean can you imagine a country with no pets? I rather be dead!!! Things go bad when people go over board on things.I would move out of this country if something drastic ever happened.

"If they are so agains people having pets then why would they give $ for service dogs? "

Simple.  They do enough positive PR so people donate lots of money to them, which they then use to sponsor anti-pet, anti-agriculture, anti-hunting legislation.  I've been following HSUS for many, many years.  Their website and their interviews used to be quite anti-pet, but then they wised up - that doesn't bring in the cash from the animal lovers with their Foofy & Fluffy at home, does it?  So they make sure they do "nice" things so people think, Oh, HSUS, they're such a great organization, and send in the cash.

"There might be certain towns that have a spay policy but that is more so no thanks to Bob Barker.Something I read a while back LA was going to have that law that ALL pets had to be neutered unless it was a compitition dog or guard etc.I think it is a bunch of crap!! Anyone that tried to touch my dogs to neuter them is going to get neutered themselves!!! I worked as a vet tech i would have no problem doing it to someone that messed with my dogs or took my rights away from me."

Then stay away from HSUS!  Here's a good bookmark site:  www.saova.org.  They keep a good eye on anti-animal organizations that masquerade as pro-animal orgs.

The quote below is from http://saova.org/Chicago1.html  Read the HSUS statement very carefully, esp. the part I bolded.  The "reorientation" of what must be done with animals, YOUR animals, is their stated goal.

"On July 30, HSUS issued a press release via their website in support of the proposed mandatory spay/castrate ordinance and thanked Chicago lawmakers for “addressing this important animal welfare issue.” The statement reads, “Every year, more than 3 million dogs and cats are euthanized in animal shelters nationwide-including 19,000 pets in the City of Chicago-because not enough people choose to adopt. Spaying and neutering, at this time, is the only permanent, 100-percent effective method of birth control for dogs and cats, and this legislation provides an incentive for people to sterilize their animals and reorients public policy to expect that animal caretakers will see that their animals are sterilized.” "

WOW that is insane!! It is as bad as Palin wanting to slaughter all the wolves!! Psycho comes to mind for a word describing these people.Glad I moved out of Chicago area!! DO they not read about the negative effects of neutering an animal? I have read some articles that were from AVMA saying that it isn't always the best thing to do. Some females end up having a waekened urithra and end up leaking there for having to be put on meds that in the long run cause problems too!! Males can actually get prostrate problems from being casterated and then also get fat!! Sounds like they need to be educated themselves and not just be crazy activists.That is what it all boils down to is EDUCATING people about not letting dogs breed that shoudn't be bred. I once worked at a pet store long ago and they had pups and kittens for sale.I have no problem with that not being aloud cause the ones that aren't sold and grow up there ...they lack the social skills and it isn't the life for them.Also some would get parvo and the owner didn't care and never did what needed to be done to get rid of it.So dogs died. Thank you so much for this info.I am going to save it and show the people of the org to make sure that we don't contact them.I am sure I and the lady that is handicapped and needs an assistant dog would have a few choice words for them;
~L~

Well I have to say I don't think it were a bad thing if some people were neutered!!Some people shouldn't be bred but that is another topic.  There needs to be a balance with it all but the way this world is...I don't see that happening. I just hope that in my life time...these rediculose ideas they have don''t some in to full swing!!
~L~

I would like to let the great Ted Nugent deal with them in his own way thank God for Ted who else would you rather have on your side to fight theses idiots