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by CrysBuck25 on 22 November 2009 - 23:11
.My hubby is going to hate me if I ask him to build me an outdoor kennel like that! Not that my Oakley would be in it that much, but our other dog would be in it...And the Roses...I love roses, more than any other flower! Your garden is absolutely stunning and so is your kennel setup!
And to the OP, what Steve said about his dogs living outdoors and not having the skin troubles and fewer allergies than house dogs...My vet agrees with that. He also told me that back when dogs weren't housepets, there weren't nearly so many behavioural issues, such as separation anxiety, either. This vet lets his dogs in the house for a while each day, but they live outdoors, and they seem very well behaved and very healthy.
Crys
by steve1 on 23 November 2009 - 07:11
Yes, your Vet is right, Before we had Shepherds we had different Breeds Mostly large breed Dogs and Border Collies, Everyone lived outdoors from 8 to9 week old Pups We had two who came into the house a couple of times a day for 30 minutes then they would stand by the door waiting to go out,
In 60 years we never owned two dogs at any one time until we got the Shepherds, and the one dog was never lonely, never barked during the days or nights no problems at all
But the main thing was they stayed healthy the coats always looked great as does Gorans and Izzies, But the main sign is the eyes Bright clear sparking eyes tells all, and a moist cold nose, I would never have a dog live in the house now unless it was one who could not stand the cold and weather that is different
The Kennels are double skinned 5/8'' Plywood the floor and roof also of the kennels so i think the dogs are okay in the winter They show no signs of not being 100% but of course Izzy will soon face her first winter outside
Steve1
by malshep on 23 November 2009 - 11:11
Always,
Cee
by SitasMom on 23 November 2009 - 18:11
total fat 14g
saturated fat 13g
trans fat 0g
cholesterol 0g
120 cals per tbsp
Coconut oil is also uniquely rich in lauric acid, which (in humans) is converted to the same bedeficial substance - monolaurin - that nursing (human) babies derive from lauric acid in mother's milk.
"Coconut oil is a saturated fat that is different from other dietary saturated fats. The fats in coconut oil have short molecular chains. Recent research has shown that coconut oil does not contribute to higher cholesterol or heart disease. Coconut oil may also reduce weight gain because the shorter fat molecules are more easily metabolized. Most significantly, coconut oil contains about 50% Lauric Acid. Lauric acid has protective properties against many infectious organisms including lipid coated viruses, bacteria, fungi, etc. For the complete article on coconut oil, Click Here" http://www.advance-health.com/coconut.html
I don't see what the issue is with non-hydrogenated coconut oil.
by sueincc on 23 November 2009 - 20:11
by SitasMom on 23 November 2009 - 22:11
organic oils are usually cold pressed, filtered oils in their organic or natural state.
the hydrogenation process - is what changes Crisco from a yellow liquid oil into a white grease shortening........ hydrogenating an oil increases the shelf life and destroyers most all that is good in it by changing the good fats into bad fats.
after doing adequate research and learning about the true nutritional needs of dog in different stages of life, and different activity levels...... cooking up your own dog food may be better depending of course on the recipe of course..... dogs might even like it better!
by sueincc on 23 November 2009 - 23:11
It's not difficult at all to prepare an excellent homemade RAW diet for dogs, certainly less complicated than preparing a balanced diet for primates, including humans.
by SitasMom on 24 November 2009 - 05:11
.........Organic Coconut Oil is pure, cold pressed, unrefined, non-hydrogenated coconut oil with a superior taste......
should have given the link for the above statement....sorry.
by sueincc on 24 November 2009 - 14:11
http://www.desiccated-coconut.com/copra_meal.html
Copra Cake and Copra Meal - Organic Certified
Copra Cake and Copra Meal is the solid residue of the copra after it is mechanically pressed to extract the coconut oil. It is used as an ingredient in the production of animal feeds and other types of feeds for poultry and aquaculture.
http://www.coconut-oil-central.com/organic-coconut-oil.html
Organic Copra? Interestingly, some organic coconut oil designation agencies don't seem to distinguish between copra and fresh coconut kernel.. Copra is the dried meat of the coconut fruit and is also sometimes called desiccated coconut (DCN), which DCN processors vehemently reject.
Copra is typically used to produce RBD (Refined, Bleached and Deodorized) oil. Because of the refining, bleaching and deodorizing process necessary for sanitation from bacteria, mold and other contaminants, RBD oil no longer contains natural antioxidant properties, not to mention that fresh coconut aroma and flavor.
Furthermore, some certifying bodies do allow for solvent use in the oil extraction. This is unacceptable and I wouldn't be surprised if countless others feel the same. Using chemical solvents has no place in manufacturing natural or virgin coconut oil.
http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/what_is_virgin_coconut_oil.htm
Virgin Coconut Oil can only be achieved by using fresh coconut meat or what is called non-copra. Chemicals and high heating are not used in further refining, since the natural, pure coconut oil is very stable with a shelf life of several years. There are currently two main processes of manufacturing Virgin Coconut Oil:
by SitasMom on 24 November 2009 - 16:11
we must keep in mine that all of the above links (yours and mine) are from sites trying to sell their products.
the "meat", "kernel" and the "copra" are all the same part of a coconut, the white part that we eat. the "copra" is in dried form.
FDA requires truth in ingredients even in pet foods "Oilseed Byproducts - Coconut meal, copra meal peanut meal, soybean meal, etc." http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/resourcesforyou/ucm047113.htm & http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/ora/pcb/tutorial/LES6_IND_CODE67_72.htm
if the ingredient is "organic coconut oil" then it is organic coconut oil, not copra cake or copra meal.
"organic oils are usually cold pressed, filtered oils in their organic or natural state". - from a previous post... note nothing was mentioned as to if its "fresh" kernel, meat or copra was the base.
I believe we are saying more less the same thing........
I agree that "organic virgin coconut oil" is best, but either way, I wouldn't loose any sleep over it.
after reading the ingredients, its a better diet then I eat!
http://www.primalpetfoods.com/education/benefits
"Primal Pet Food Formulas contain 100% certified organic, unrefined, nutrition-packed supplements that offer your pet additional benefits to immune, circulatory and digestive health. The variety of nutritional supplements used in Primal Formulas aid in the efficient assimilation of proteins, fats and carbohydrates. In addition, food-derived minerals found in such supplements as sea kelp, alfalfa, apple-cider vinegar and grapefruit-seed extract help to regulate the utilization of vitamins throughout the body.
Through the feeding of Primal Pet Foods Formulas, your pet will receive the necessary variety of food-derived minerals that are bio-available, easy to assimilate and aid in the process of digestion, circulation and immune system enhancement."
Organic Coconut Oil: Excellent source of linoleic acid and other important unsaturated fatty acids • Stimulates a healthy coat and skin
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