backyard breeders??? - Page 3

michael49:

My friend I hate to tell you but (this will be hard for you to believe) the world does not turn around you. My comment was made of the post directly above mine... 

I love you to no end but man... you need laid!!!

Oh secondly the definition of a expert is... a ex is a has been and a spert is a drip under pressure.

Your always welcome to your opinion just make sure when you "jump some one" your doing it for the right reasons...

 

On this site, when the term "Backyard Breeder" is used in a negative manner, it denotes someone exactly as Jim described and I would also add to that description someone who knows nothing about this working breed, yet sets up shop anyways, puts the cart before the horse. 

As far as dogs raised in the house, I buy from breeders who raise pups in a kennel.  I don't want a pup who has been inhibited by someone else's idea of good house manners.  Probably why my philosophy with pups once i bring them home is if they are going to be in the house get everything the hell out of their reach, or suffer the consequences.  For me with young dogs/pups  most training should be on the field, not in the house, so I like to use kennels, easier on the dogs and my house!   I bring them in the house a lot, but I also give them down time in their kennel too.

Sue:

I agree, All my dogs get rotated thru the house and kennel they learn boundries and parameters are set. I do live with my dogs and my litters are all born and raised in the house then are moved to the kennel. I do agree with most of michaels post (when he isn,t snapping my head off) although the extent he goes to are only with the pups from the litter I keep for my self.   

Bob,I stand corrected and wish to extend my humble apology. Sue I agree completely,Not refering to a pups life before I own him,only afterward. Also not refering to a pup or dog never being kenneled,only to those that are kenneled and never see the inside of the house again.I just think that a pup that is allowed to live in the house for a while,and then exiled to a kennel or yard for the rest of his life for whatever reason experiences some very undeserved emotional trauma for lack of a better explanation.Sitasmom, I'm of the opinion that every one no matter the size of the kennel or the # of pups bred will be labled byb or puppy mill at some point, all depends on whos labeling and why, always by their own motives and definition of the terms.In my opinion damned if you do and damned if you don't very much applies to all breeders.I also agree with Jim's statement, but I think it depends  to some extent on who owns and trains the dog,otherwise all the pups would excell in the various venues. Jim no offense meant to you , I do understand what your saying and am in agreement with you,success is rarely achived without knowledge and a well thought out plan.

michael:

Apologies are not needed when there was no offense taken...

 

Thanks for your understanding Bob, lesson learned I'll be a bit more carefull about my replies in the future.

 agree with Sueincc...dogs need to start in a kennel and a safe abode..I am not getting into all this why , she said it all..I ageee with her...my dogs are not trained in a house and I would be destitute if I allowed these high drive tails to have to be disciplined to keep their tails between their legs at all times in my highly decorated home.

A lot of other reasons go with it...not gonna bother to explain....I am sure someone else will....All my dog go with me in my truck at one time or another..and are in m y house or home at the appropriate time ....I also introduce all pups to my home, the tv, the stove where they see themselves and bark the fool head off for 15 mins...and I introduce them into the public for the very same reason.

Thanks  Sue 


Yellowrose

I would never whelp a litter in my home....I spent the money for air conditioned nursery with cages adn whelping boxes with proper lights, heat and proper music, lights and plenty of what they need.
There are hours of individual responsiblity that goes with breeding and it is not  HOUSekeEPING>>>>>>it is much more...much more...physcology of the dog being in safe abode..then whelping and you have to do  many things like the    massage theraphy.....physco tummy rubs and feet from 1 day old to 3 weeks old....give the pup a better chance to enter into the stress of    people , shots, siblings, rag work, commands and living with humans....there are steps you as a breeder have to learn........not housewarming.....either.....

Again I said I was not gonna explain   but I cannot keep quiet....there is more to breeding and raising the pups from   the conception to the day they go to a new owner....

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..I am going to try to get to Sitasmom to help her learn these things   but maybe her hubby will build a doggie nursery out back for her....hint  hint.....hint....air conditioners are on sale now...hint hint   hint.........YR

SitasMom:
Your point is?????

Michael -- very good posts -- I like the way you think.

Bob -- well..........................

Maggie:
Well ?
There deep and hold water.
There a deep subject for a shallow mind?
Do you feel well?
I feel very well thank you for asking!
Well life on the farm is kinda laid back aint much a old country boy like me can,t hack.
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