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by OGBS on 24 August 2009 - 23:08
The electoral college was formed as a way of keeping "common folks" from electing the President.
In the Constitution it was decided that each state would have electors equal to the number of congresssional reps and senators, but, could not be those people. Obviously each state had two senators and the reps were based on population. All of this holds true to this day.
Originally, each elector was given two votes to cast for two different people. The person with the most votes became President and the person with the second most was Vice-President. They did this because they were trying to avoid political parties becoming too strong. It was also thought that the electoral college would always screw up the election and then President would be chosen by Congress. This is what most of the wealthy land owners wanted.
If you look at the 1800 election you will see that Jefferson and Burr received an equal number of electoral votes. They had formed a political party and decided that Jefferson would be Pres. and Burr V.P. The problem was that Burr's votes were not cast for V.P. because you couldn't vote for a V.P., only a Pres.
When this went to Congress they took 35 votes and could not come up with a Pres. until Alexander Hamilton finally decided on the 36th ballot that he hated Burr more than he hated Jefferson.
After this election the electors had one vote for Pres. and one for V.P. and the political parties were now in full swing. The rest is history.
In the Constitution it was decided that each state would have electors equal to the number of congresssional reps and senators, but, could not be those people. Obviously each state had two senators and the reps were based on population. All of this holds true to this day.
Originally, each elector was given two votes to cast for two different people. The person with the most votes became President and the person with the second most was Vice-President. They did this because they were trying to avoid political parties becoming too strong. It was also thought that the electoral college would always screw up the election and then President would be chosen by Congress. This is what most of the wealthy land owners wanted.
If you look at the 1800 election you will see that Jefferson and Burr received an equal number of electoral votes. They had formed a political party and decided that Jefferson would be Pres. and Burr V.P. The problem was that Burr's votes were not cast for V.P. because you couldn't vote for a V.P., only a Pres.
When this went to Congress they took 35 votes and could not come up with a Pres. until Alexander Hamilton finally decided on the 36th ballot that he hated Burr more than he hated Jefferson.
After this election the electors had one vote for Pres. and one for V.P. and the political parties were now in full swing. The rest is history.
by Christopher Smith on 24 August 2009 - 23:08
The right wing has been throwing out the same bullshit stats since 2000. They are even too damn lazy and simple minded to change the numbers. Just more right wing bullshit to cloud the mind of people so they don't look at what the real problems are in the US.
Phil your too smart to fall for this shit. Shame on you.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/athenian.asp
Phil your too smart to fall for this shit. Shame on you.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/athenian.asp
by BabyEagle4U on 24 August 2009 - 23:08
To change the electoral college would be non-productive in the current in my opinion. I think what people don't realize is the founders reserved the bull move share of government power to the people and the states, NOT the oval office and/or Congress. What's happened now is special interests have seized the opportunity due to ignorance of people and their state sovereignty, then did turn the oval office into a throne room since FDR. In other words the oval office is now the side door to the US Treasury, and the stimulous bill proved this.
It's also interesting to mention the leading 5 states who want to reform the electoral college are in fact : blue states, how ironic.
What we do have to do, and it's a must do, is destroy the fake powers of the oval office, repeal the harebrained 16th and 17th Amendments .. then traitors wouldn't be too concerned about getting control of the oval office to control the US Treasury. This isn't about even being POTUS, it's now about who controls the oval office to get to the US Treasury.
With this idea above, the electoral college as written in Article II of the Constitution wouldn't be an issue.. and with the states reclaiming their sovereignty, the traitors wouldn't have much interest 2 hot-wire the oval office for the goal of the US Treasury.
It's simple.
It's also interesting to mention the leading 5 states who want to reform the electoral college are in fact : blue states, how ironic.
What we do have to do, and it's a must do, is destroy the fake powers of the oval office, repeal the harebrained 16th and 17th Amendments .. then traitors wouldn't be too concerned about getting control of the oval office to control the US Treasury. This isn't about even being POTUS, it's now about who controls the oval office to get to the US Treasury.
With this idea above, the electoral college as written in Article II of the Constitution wouldn't be an issue.. and with the states reclaiming their sovereignty, the traitors wouldn't have much interest 2 hot-wire the oval office for the goal of the US Treasury.
It's simple.
by RatPackKing on 25 August 2009 - 01:08
More Stats for Chris,
Stimulus you can believe in from the NY Post :
WASHINGTON – The stimulus package is living up to its provocative name by funding a bacchanalia of behavioral sex research, a Post analysis reveals.
* Examine “barriers to correct condom use” at Indiana University, at a cost of $221,000.
* Study “hookups” among adolescents at Syracuse University. Study’s cost: $219,000.
* Evaluate “drug use as a sex enhancer” in an analysis of “high-risk community sex networks” at the University of Illinois, Chicago. That study will cost $123,000.
* Study how methamphetamine, thought to produce an “insatiable need” for sex among users, “enhances the motivation for female rat sexual behavior.” Some $28,000 has been awarded for the University of Maryland at Baltimore study.
Grand total? $591,000…paid for by YOUR tax dollars.
And the economic benefit is…?
RPK
Stimulus you can believe in from the NY Post :
WASHINGTON – The stimulus package is living up to its provocative name by funding a bacchanalia of behavioral sex research, a Post analysis reveals.
* Examine “barriers to correct condom use” at Indiana University, at a cost of $221,000.
* Study “hookups” among adolescents at Syracuse University. Study’s cost: $219,000.
* Evaluate “drug use as a sex enhancer” in an analysis of “high-risk community sex networks” at the University of Illinois, Chicago. That study will cost $123,000.
* Study how methamphetamine, thought to produce an “insatiable need” for sex among users, “enhances the motivation for female rat sexual behavior.” Some $28,000 has been awarded for the University of Maryland at Baltimore study.
Grand total? $591,000…paid for by YOUR tax dollars.
And the economic benefit is…?
RPK
by raymond on 25 August 2009 - 01:08
Evaluate “drug use as a sex enhancer” in an analysis of “high-risk community sex networks” at the University of Illinois, Chicago. That study will cost $123,000.
When does that study start????????????Can I go ?
When does that study start????????????Can I go ?
by RatPackKing on 25 August 2009 - 03:08
So let me get this straight… This health care plan will be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it and whose members will be exempt from it, signed by a president who smokes, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is dead broke. …what could possibly go wrong?
RPK
RPK
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