OT Peta brainiacs at it again. - Page 3

Beetree,

These people ARE extremists.  There's no halfway about them.  They need to be stopped, plain and simple.  Problem is, ignoring them, and educating the public, isn't doing a bit of good.  Morons still keep pouring the money into them, and they use that money, and the fact that most of us ignore them, to their advantage, lobbying for laws that carry out their agendas.  I think someone needs to set up a non-profit and come up with some catchy name for it, like:

People for the Protection of Animals FROM Animal Rights Agendas (PPAFARA) 
Foundation for Preservation of Domesticated Animals (FPDA)
Domesticated Animal Protection Trust (DAPT)

Or something equally like it.
Then run some ad campaigns, show people what you're really about, protecting and preserving domesticated animals in their myriad forms.  Get lots of donations, and give PETA some competition in the lobby department.  We should buy some of our own politicians, corner some of the market in law making.  I know it sounds like I'm making fun of them, but for God's sake, someone needs to do something.  Although the AR movement doesn't hide their intent, neither do they advertise it, you have to look to find it.  It needs to be put out there so that all these well-meaning but clueless people who support them can see what they are supporting, and that might help a bit.

Crys

Crys, I agree with your statement, "These people ARE extremists." Problem is, your other part, "They need to be stopped, plain and simple", creates the same problems for you! 

To effect change, there needs to be attitude of conciliation from both parts, not obliteration. That is where extremism always fails.

CrysBuck25
I could not have said it better.  However or whatever the method is to bring  this concern to the mainstream folks and politicians who have so much influence over our lives (just look at all the house bills that come across this site) needs to happen.  As you have so well stated, this is more than just animals, it is a philosophy that has everything turned upside down. 

However, my immediate concern is for our dogs, our working dogs in particular, but even more so, our basic constitutional rights that are being bled away by these Bills.  When my government tells me I cannot breed dogs any more, or that my young male pup, that is going to be used for working and serving, must be neutered, or that I am told by my government that I can only have one or two dogs  (sound like China with the two kid limit) or that I cannot have a prong collar, or a leash that is 4 ft long or any of the other mandates that our paid in full ignorant politicians go for.  Oh well, I better quit while I am ahead, this topic can really get me going.

I just a read a small article in our local paper about a region in China that is limiting family dogs to one! Now families have to choose between pets. It isn't so bad here yet, is it? I don't breed but it doesn't seem like there is any body looking to stop me either. If someone allows their home or husbandry operation to become a source of annoyance to their neighbors, then they deserve to have a problem. I think a number of these bills get discussed because animals make news and politicians need news. Does much really change in the end, that keeps someone embarking on a lively hood derived from breeding dogs? 

Yet, Beetree, yet.  That's the operative word.  Just because it isn't happening yet doesn't mean it can't, or won't happen.  Our rights can and are being stripped every day, and every time another bill is passed, then another right is lost.  I can see the scope of this problem, and I have no idea what to do about it. 

You were right, when you said that stopping the ARs outright amounts to extremism, but the problem is that there is already a comfortable middle ground, that the ARs refuse to accept. Their very viewpoint is a form of extremism which surpasses what I normally think of as extremism.  How do you convince someone who wants to see the complete extinction of all domesticated animals that animals are here for a reason and that we give each other mutual benefits?  They don't care.  If they are willing to kill every single domesticated animal, then there is no middle ground with them, and I don't see the solution as being any kind of middle ground, because short of giving them lots of medications to help with their compulsions, I don't know that they can change.  They view their agenda as right, and that kind of passion is all but impossible to stop.

Read some of Ingrid's writings, and some of Wayne Pacelle's.  Look up also Doctor Michael Fox (not the actor), and some of the other prominent members of the AR cult, and tell me they can be reeducated and made to see logic.  When a guy makes the statement "The life of an ant and the life of my child should be given equal consideration", then I ask you, what is the middle ground here?

In case I sound like I'm fishing for a fight, I'm not.  I just would like someone to point out to me how these people can be made to see that their views are crazy.

What comes after that?  Plant rights? 

Crys

I have to confess to you guys I am a member of PETA religiously.  I go to the PETA rallies whenever there around here, I take offense to everything you all are saying about a good group o poeple.

I wear the skin of an entire lamb, with head still attached, and a necklace of endangered tiger teeth.  I bring my pregnant pitt bull, a Chimp dressed in a clown costume to help distrubute PETA flyers, and a my Burmese Python with the box of mice that I breed for his food.  Then I break out my bbq grill and start cooking up steak tar tar and fresh veal for everyone.  Its allways fun at the rallies, GO ANIMAL RIGHTS!  HIZAAA!

If you did that, Croc...They might just barbeque you!

Just saying...

Crys