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by luvdemdogs on 25 May 2009 - 03:05
pics please!!!
by VonIsengard on 25 May 2009 - 04:05
Jransom, I guess the point I was making with that statement was if you deliberately breed outside the standard, after enough generations you get a dog that no longer resembles a GSD in body or mind. Then, to me at least, it is no longer a GSD.
by SitasMom on 25 May 2009 - 04:05
by VonIsengard on 25 May 2009 - 04:05
by crimsonribbon on 25 May 2009 - 04:05
by jletcher18 on 25 May 2009 - 06:05
Hey luvdemdogs, if screaming is what it takes to even put the possibility of making one person actually read the standard, then screaming is what I will do.
Schutzhund is a sport. so are many other things. As i have said all along, i dont care what you do with your dog, at least train it to do something besides keep the couch warm. I know, thats all some people want, but really, is full time foot warmer enough to base the worthyness of breeding off of? It is to some people, but i dont see that as doing the breed a good service. Just as breeding for color alone does nothing to improve. you just keep telling yourself that color doesnt matter, and i will keep trying to educate others how it does.
john
by vonissk on 25 May 2009 - 06:05
by 4pack on 25 May 2009 - 06:05
by Red Sable on 25 May 2009 - 12:05
KCzaja; I don't agree with you on their structure. That part looked good IMO. Goodness, look at some of the dogs the conformation ring sends out in top spot. Some have forgotten what the proper structure is in place of a fad, to see if it makes the dog trot pertier.
I used to fall for all this breed standard BS that dog folks spew, until I saw what they were breeding and called tempermentally and structurally correct. What a joke.
BTW, my dog is not structurally correct, she does have a curved spine,(slightly roached) and is cowhocked,- just so you know I can admit her faults too, and it was actually painless.
by VonIsengard on 25 May 2009 - 14:05
I never said what gets popular in the show ring is correct, either. I went to the USASS last month and between the puppy classes and the "performance" tests I was too disgusted to stick around Saturday and did not go on Sunday at all. By the same token, I have seen a fair share of working dogs whose backs are soft and height to lenght is so skewed I'm amazed the dog's back can hold up to the work. Don't get me started on the AKC show types. Saying that poor dogs physically and mentally come out of "good" lines as well is weak justification for that kind of breeding.
Don't get me wrong, I like a good moving dog. Front reach is important for ground covering, but I sure don't need it in the extreme. Correctness coming and going is much more important to me than length of stride.
One mark of a good breeder or fancier is someone who can admit their dog's faults. Thinking one's dog is just perfect and awesome is putting on blinders, and then the breeding program takes a nosedive. I don't find it painful, either, and outside of what you mentioned I think your dog is lovely, in fact none of the dogs on that site could hold a candle to her structurally (coat or not!), if that is her on your avatar. ;)
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