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by SitasMom on 18 May 2009 - 16:05

Kyle Kepley, posting on Politico:
I've created this handy Obama progress tracking list so you can post it on your refrigerator and check off each milestone as it is reached. You'll have to designate someone to check off the last one for you:
(x) Government takes control of the banks
(x) Government takes control of the car companies
( ) Government takes control of health care
( ) Union thugs taking over every business small and large through the "card check" movement
( ) Unemployment rate rises as businesses can no longer afford to hire employees due to union demands
( ) New census report results in new redistricting that gives Democrats a huge advantage in future elections
( ) Political speech regulated on the airwaves
( ) Gun control laws enacted to register every single firearm privately owned
( ) Government takes control of insurance companies
( ) National sovereignty is lost to a globalized version of the European Union
( ) Our kids are subjected to mandatory "volunteerism" via Obama's "youth corps" as specified in the new GIVE bill
( ) New energy taxes and drilling bans result in $5 per gallon and rising at the pump
( ) Government steps in with price controls on gas, resulting in shortages and long lines at the pump (Carter, the sequel)
( ) Government takes control of all oil/energy companies
( ) Everyone stops buying our treasury bonds, resulting in the fed having to print massive amounts of new currency
( ) Inflation goes through the roof as stimulus spending comes home to roost and the money presses are running overtime
( ) Government blames the rich for high prices and steps in with more taxes, subsidies and price controls
( ) Grocery store shelves start running empty
( ) New taxes on companies and the rich drive the productive citizens out of business or out of the country
( ) Restrictions are placed on foreign travel, visa extensions are no longer granted
( ) Companies are banned from relocating overseas
( ) Severe economic downturn continues
( ) The presidential two-term limit is removed
( ) Social Security goes bankrupt. Private 401K accounts are nationalized and redistributed
( ) Health care is severely rationed as the system nears bankruptcy
( ) A-bomb made in Iran goes off in New York harbor
( ) Social chaos ensues
( ) Guns are seized from all citizens
( ) NATO forces are brought in to help enforce martial law and gun confiscation
( ) Crime, disease and starvation are rampant
( ) New dawn of third world dictatorship begins for America
( ) Your own kid reports you to an equality enforcement officer for trying to grow your own food
( ) You die in a prison labor camp, where about 45% of the population is enslaved

luvdemdogs

by luvdemdogs on 18 May 2009 - 17:05

Crys,  I believe you have not quite got the water adjudication issue correctly described.   Water usualy belongs to the state. 

Washington State, for example:

http://www.ecy.wa.gov/pubs/961804swr.pdf


Citizens had rights to the water, but they don't own it.   I believe that kind of law is similar around the world in areas where water is thought of as a necessary resource for human life, as water is (or should be considered) a basic human right, so there has always been an acknowledgment in many governments that the fact one should be able to use a reasonable amount of water, but also make available excess for other citizens and food production.  

For example, if one citizen has a well that taps into another citizen's water supply and dries up  the second citizen's well - water adjudication may occur.  Clearly, that is exactly where a state ought ot step in.  Similarly, if one state diverts a river that the second state depended on for water - that, too, is a clear example of where government needs to step in. 

IMO, water should never be privatized - for those reasons.  The government, who is in charge of looking after ALL of it's citizens is a better entity to control water than a private corporation whose sole purpose is profits for shareholders.  Water and the water table and various underground water basins are so interconnected and are so necessary for life that it may need to be regulated even more than it is now - especially given the alleged global warming and climate change that might make it the world's most precious resource. 

I cringe when I think of the possibility of privatizing water for profit.  It's already happening. 

For some insight into the global problem of water commodification - I would suggest the following reading:

The global water crisis and the commodification of the world's water supply
A Special Report issued by the International Forum on Globalization (IFG)


http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Water/Blue_Gold.html

luvdemdogs

by luvdemdogs on 18 May 2009 - 17:05

BTW - from one outsider's perspective, this is the first time the US citizens have elected a president that they can be proud of. since Kennedy.

by SitasMom on 18 May 2009 - 17:05

In Colorado, water rights are basically the same as property rights.

You can purchase a piece of property and you can purchase water rights. Sometimes a piece of property come with water rights and sometimes is does not.

A 35+ acre tract of land usually has "1 foot acre" of water rights - - if you can get a permit to drill a well..

A person can try to purchase water rights from someone else if they want to build a pond or lake, or irrigate a hay field or grow another corp. In some counties, during spring runoff, after the local reservoirs are filled, people can then fill their lakes without any water rights - put only then.

Smaller tracts of land can have "household" water rights which lets you use water inside the house only -- if you can get a permit.to drill a well....

This stuff has been going on for hundreds of years, the laws are very complicated. 

luvdemdogs

by luvdemdogs on 18 May 2009 - 17:05

yup...

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 18 May 2009 - 18:05

luvdemdogs, your ignorance is showing profusely. Apparently, your not American and or you have no clue what private property and property rights are 'round here.. So, I'll skip to the OP.

Article II section 1 of the Constitution clearly requires that all presidents be “natural born citizens”

Pennsylvania's former Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg, Esquire ...
Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Obama's lack of Constitutional "qualifications/eligibility" to serve as President of the United States and has three [3] cases that are still pending in the Federal Court system, Berg vs. Obama [2 cases – 1 under seal] and Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama.

This whole issue is like a bottomless pit of pending litigation since before the general election. Could you imagine if he shows up in court and presents fakes. Whoaaaa be'atide.

Barry Soetoro needs to just show up in Federal Court ... he refused to do so since August of 2008. What's interesting about all this, is the procecuting attorneys are all democrats in 8 different states.

Here's a contact ... call and have a chat. :o)~

Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659

What the OP posted is a hoax by reporting editor and source, presenting a smear, NOT by Federal Court Cases pending or litigations. These cases will not disappear until Obama, now POTUS, shows up in a Federal Court. No matter what factcheck and snopes says ... this is real. Believe it.

Just wait till the CIA gets pissed enough at the Admin ... Nancy Pelosi's doing an accelerating job as we speak, then SWHTF.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 18 May 2009 - 18:05

I love the sound of shit hitting a fan....

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 18 May 2009 - 18:05

LOL Moons ... I think I do too !!! 

MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 18 May 2009 - 19:05



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BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 18 May 2009 - 21:05

I would have loved to be around for Kennedy and his rally's. It's too bad my generation wasn't, he might still be alive to this day no doubt.

I'm just glad to be apart of the next best man, and we NAMED IT TOO  !!! 

I love the US Constitution. I see you two MaggieMae and luvdemdogs, don't.

Sucks to be you in America right about now. Good luck with your american dream. I have mine. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta3IsIbWpNk






 


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