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Weiner - are you a vet? Just because your dogs haven't developed heartworm (have you tested all of them regularly?) or haven't been overdosed by giving them an unknown amount of ivermectin by dosing them with equine paste wormer - doesn't mean everyone would be as lucky as you. My recommendation, from being involved in dogs and horses for over 20 years, is to consult a veterinarian and see what they say about giving paste equine wormer to dogs, before deciding to do so.
molly
Not every one can measure correctly doing either /or.
Overdosing is serious. When you use a syringe , you know what it is. Paste is not the same strength.
Some of these chemicals are very strong and we are talking about german shepherds not cattle.
Yeah, I can do it, but not everyone is a livestock person and not every person reading these posts has the experience I have at measuing and even know what to use or they wounld come here asking.
You put a high dosage of Ivemectin in paste form in the hands of a Monday morning breaksfast coffee drinking housewife and tell her just a dab or one notch and she has to guess. ??
The bottle of liquid is the 1% strength and is applicable by the vets discression for beginners to use. People that do not livestock are not familiar with how dangerouse that glob of white paste can be.
Well i use the paste and have never had a problem.
Jerry Marshall
Molly - are you a vet? Yes dogs are regularly checked. "haven't been overdosed by giving them an unknown amount of ivermectin by dosing them with equine paste wormer" What are you talking about? The Zimectrin tube has a locking wheel hub mechanism for precise measurements of a notch at a time and has for over 20 years. So it appears you are talking about something you have no experience with. Cheaper manufacturer just have a tube and a plunger. The Zimectrin doesn't have a cheap plunger. Zimectrin has a notched measuring wheel locking hub system for exacting doses. "doesn't mean everyone would be as lucky as you" Not luck, using exacting measured out doses. "My recommendation, from being involved in dogs and horses for over 20 years, is to consult a veterinarian and see what they say about giving paste equine wormer to dogs, before deciding to do so." I have been involved with dogs and horses over 40 years, so get off your high horse. It appears you are talking about something you have no experience with. If you can use a needle and syringe to measure out a dose of liquid, why cant you use a notched measuring locking wheel hub mechanism / system for exacting doses of paste? Look whoever sold you on the idea paste bad, liquid good did you an injustice. Paste is fine and works well and has for years with many people. When it comes to care, maintenance and upkeep of dogs or a large kennel there are many ways to do it, not just your way. Just because I do it different then you does not make me wrong. This is not a breed specific issue so ask other large kennel operators and breeders of other breeds about it not just "your" vet. The coonhound breeders / hunters around here use paste too. The bird dog breeder with several akc master hunters uses it also. Besides the post was "any one use Ivermectrin paste horse wormer?" not "make up reasons not to use Ivermectrin paste horse wormer"
yes I know all about the paste wormer with the "notches". I worm my horses with zimectrin regularly and have since owning horses, for the past 30 years. What I'm saying, and yes I do know what I'm talking about as I have consulted vets - both equine and small animal - about it before - is that the paste holds an amount calculated to worm an animal at least 500 lbs. You do not know that one "notch" in the tube holds a certain amount of wormer. The paste isn't all ivermectin, in fact a very small percentage of it is ivermectin. The amount of ivermectin in one "notch" is impossible to know. It could contain no ivermectin, or it could contain an overdose (for a dog). Do not use paste horse wormer for your dogs. Ask your vet before doing so if you don't want to listen to me and others who know better.
molly
I have seen the HORSE wormer kill dogs! ONLY, use the ivermectin labeled for cattle and swine!!
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennnels.com
I used Zemectrin on my horses for years and now one mi only per dog to worm one with it. I use the tube about ten dollars and it does ten to 12 dogs. I do not worm a dog under 7 mos old, it must be at least 65 to 70 pounds for one mi. The shringe at the end shows the marks for one mi to pull the circle back to put on your finger and into the dogs mouth.
I have used it for years, it has the same chemical for heart worms in it also. My dogs only get wormed once or twice a year unless it shows worms from a fecal sample but most the time they are worm free.
I would be hesitatant to use a liquid of it as it is much easier to use the paste measured for you per mi.
Hello Molly,
It seems you wont let a sleeping dog sleep.
Would you please explain if a 1,000 gallon batch / tank of 1.87% ivermectin is siphoned off into tubes of 1.87% ivermectrin. Then a notch of 1.87% ivermectrin is administered, how suddenly the laws of physics cease and the 1.87% paste suddenly is not a known dose? See one notch, 12 notches, a cup, a quart, a gallon, even 1,000 gallons of paste is put into paste as a carrying agent to guarantee 1.87% or very close to in any quantity of said product. So how does the laws of physics suddenly cease to exist when you notch it off for a dog? You keep stating that 1.87% that is evenly distributed in a paste suspension is not correct. Please, pretty please with sugar on top, explain how suddenly a sealed and packaged product, of 1.87% ivermectin that is evenly distributed in a paste suspension to preserve the integrity of the dose and to guarantee 1.87% or very close to it in any quantity of said product, that you buy and pay for, suddenly becomes something else in your mind once someone decides to use it for a dog?
Molly why do you feel you are always right??
Jerry Marshall
I think I see what you're getting at. The ivermectrin molecules are suspended in the paste, but there is no way of knowing exactly how they are distributed within the tube. If there are 500 ivermectrin molecules in a tube and you administered one fifth, there's no guarantee that there were exactly 100 molecules in that dose. They might all be crowded at the back end.
Now I do have to ask how the liquid is more exact. Isn't it a suspension formula just as the paste is, even if the ratio isn't the same? The ivermectrin wouldn't necessarily be distributed any more evenly in liquid, would it?
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