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by Vikram on 28 February 2009 - 14:02

Carroll,

very nicely put

cheers


by Haus Simpkins on 28 February 2009 - 18:02

as with any weapon you can  not just leave them unsupervised..
they like a gun need to be owned and handled by experienced owners.
"dogs dont bite people people get people bit."

lancegfx

by lancegfx on 28 February 2009 - 20:02

Asset 

snajper69

by snajper69 on 28 February 2009 - 23:02

Steve so true "dog's don't bite people, people get people bit" once again comes to the idea of being responsible owner.

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 01 March 2009 - 02:03

Mine, asset. I have 0 doubt I can call her off at any time. No PPD should be without extensive street obedience and 110% control with their handler. If you do not have those things....liability, for sure. I know some PPDs that are accidents waiting to happen.

windwalker18

by windwalker18 on 01 March 2009 - 07:03


The person we trained with for Personal protection said it SO clearly to me.... "You can teach any dog to bite.... a personal protection dog learns not only how to bite, but when not to..."

Shiloh was one of the most outgoing and friendly dogs I've ever owned... he went 100% of the places I went and was welcome cause he was so well mannered.  He could also nail a person @ the distance of a football field.  We had several situations  that could have appeared to be someone attacking me (overly exhuberant greetings and such) where Shi came on alert, but did nothing but watch me for a command.  I also felt safe with a stranger's small kids petting him and the 2 year old sat on his back when he was laying down... ALL with a huge Shepherd grin on his face.

Police dogs, Military dogs are not personal protection, but more a trained weapon that can be sent with more control and less deadly outcome than a bullet.   The PPD is specifically and ONLY meant for Protection, not aggression.  Not everyone who trains dogs and labels them as a PPD are as specific in their training, though.  As Carroll says there's as many different versions of PPD's as there are trainers.   I know for  myself, Shiloh was a complete asset, and with the way he was trained probably would have showed the burglers where the Silver is kept for a pat on the head.  But he rode with me in some very bad areas and would have with a word layed down his life to protect me.

by Vikram on 01 March 2009 - 08:03

the basic premise here is that if you take away the enemy there are no need for defenses and hence the dog becomes totally calm and a pet. Yet of the threat arises and an " enemy" arises the defenses would be raised and fight would ensue. On the other hand an offensive dog is essentially fearful because all offensive emtions arise due to fear.

regards


MygsdRebel

by MygsdRebel on 01 March 2009 - 11:03

Liability. No matter how well trained your dog is, it has been trained to bite when told to/if the situation calls for it, no matter how well you know you're dog, you can't tell exactly what they are thinking. And accidents do happen. But you must decide for yourself if the asset outweighs the liability.

-Emily.


by Vikram on 01 March 2009 - 17:03

totally disagree . You defintely know what's going on in the mind if you can read

cheers


by Trafalgar on 01 March 2009 - 18:03

My thought on the matter is this:

What is more likely to happen-
1-  You'll be in a situation where someone will harm you because you don't have a trained personal protection dog with you at the moment and the dog would have prevented the harm -

or

2- You'll be in the situation where a personal protection dog bites someone in a situation where the "law" won't recognize it as a justified bite?


Personally, I live a lifestyle for which I need my dog to be socialable & friendly 1000 time more often than I need him to protect me.





 


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