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by Uglydog on 26 January 2009 - 21:01

Second child attacked by coyote in N.J. town

5-year-old boy is bitten on the head; pets have also been killed, police say
Coyote attacks New Jersey boy




The bounty system has been used in the United States for more than 300 years with little success. Experience has shown that bounty payments are ineffective in controlling predation on livestock. Coyotes compensate for losses in their population by breeding at a younger age or having larger litters and by increased pup survival. To be effective, control measures (trapping and shooting) should be aimed at eliminating the individual coyotes that have become predators of livestock, not the entire population. Bounties are costly, and they promote the illegal trafficking of skins for bounty collection. When confronted with the suggestion of a bounty, stockmen and citizens should ask how effective this method of control has been in the past and what the costs were.


missbeeb

by missbeeb on 26 January 2009 - 21:01


You always have to do GRAPHIC Uglydog!  Thanks! lol

Rezkat5

by Rezkat5 on 26 January 2009 - 23:01

Yes, guard donkeys can be quite effective.

The flock that we work in NJ is guarded by a Maremma.    There are coyotes that come down off of the mountain and so far, the flock has remained intact between the Maremma and a shot gun for those who may have gotten too close.

 


4pack

by 4pack on 26 January 2009 - 23:01

Graphic yes but the sad sick truth. If I owned stock, I'd shoot on site and ask questions later. They are in NO danger of extinction and are the equivalent of a cockroach. You couldn't wipe them out if you tried.

Rezkat5

by Rezkat5 on 26 January 2009 - 23:01

I haven't seen any yet while my dogs are working the sheep.  I guess that I'm just not there for a long enough time to see any.   I have heard them though, and it's pretty eeery!

The real dangerous time is when it's lambing season, though the winter has been pretty bad so far, so I suppose that even the larger adult ewes are at risk.   The sheep have the Maremma with them, and are enclosed by electric netting, so the coyotes will get a good shock as well as having the deal with the guard dog.  

Kathy


Kelly M Shaw

by Kelly M Shaw on 26 January 2009 - 23:01

We have them here too. I've been here for over 7 years now and have never seen them but heard them only 1 time. I've never had a problem with them.  I know someone that lives around the corner from me and they have a llama that keeps them at bay from their cows, sheep, etc. They have no problems with them as long as that llama is around. They said that a pack of them did try to attack their sheep but the llama took care of all of them. They never tried again after that.  Beat them up pretty bad I guess.  I don't believe in shooting them, just have to learn to live with them.

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 27 January 2009 - 00:01

Aaron's friends were checking snares around Geraldine and decided to stop and call in a spot. One had a .204 and a .22 pistol. The other had a camera.
They called for 15 minutes and brought in the pack of coyotes that they couldn't see until they were 20 yards away



What does that mean?  Were they trying to call in some coyotes to shoot?

blueshep

by blueshep on 27 January 2009 - 00:01

Yes!  You can get electronic calls that put out the sounds of a rabbit in distress, this will draw in the coyotes.

animules

by animules on 27 January 2009 - 02:01

Coyotes aren't near as "cute" after they kill a bunch of neighborhood dogs in their own yards and somewhere around 50 of my birds in one year.  This year they got Herman my pet goose who knew his name, PeeWee the pet goose is still looking for her Herman., two heritage breed turkey toms, three heritage turkey hens, all the goslings, and various chickens and ducks..  coyotes aren't near as "cute" when you watched them scale a 5' welded wire fence to snatch a chicken then climb the fence back out.  They aren't near as cute when you realize you are dealing with a pack of about 15 animals, in a small town center next to the elementary school.  Coyotes aren't nar as cute when you see them in the middle of the day stalking the barn cats, and lambs,

I would be glad to be able to collect more coyote skins for wall hangers in my house.  The house cats love lying on them for beds.

Think of them as cockroaches or rats.  You can't really get rid of them,


wuzzup

by wuzzup on 27 January 2009 - 03:01

We moved into their back yards ,what did you expect would happen?Im sure they think we are the rats and cockroaches.





 


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