Buying and Selling Dogs - Page 3

the dog trainer,  i have to applaud you for doing what you do.  a lot of so called "renegades" are merely untrained or improperly trained.  if retraining, recycling those dogs gives them another chance at finding the right home and a happy life - good for you.  this sort of thing is commonplace in the horse world and has saved a lot of good horses from the butcher.  likewise, many good dogs are PTS  when all they really need is to fall into the right hands and be treated properly.

keep up the good work and if you can make a respectable living at it, so much the better.  so long as you stick with good ethics and honesty, i don't know how anyone can fault you.  the sad thing is when re-salers are unscrupulous and still bilk people out of money.  that happens far too often.

pjp

 Just making a point..

I know people who trained their dogs to schutzhund titles and I would'nt let them touch my dog with a 100 feet pole!!

Training dogs to schutzhund doesn't mean your a good trainer or that you know anything about dogs psychology.

Sad to say but true!

Dog trainer, where's the proof of all your claims? No one pissed in my wheaties, don't patronize me. I just get sick and tired of reading all this self promoting crap from people who call themselves dog trainers but have no proof to offer to back their claims. And don't ever assume that I have no respect for mentally handicapped people or think that they are not entitled to a dog to assist them. You started this thread, not me.  Oviously it was intended to promote you as a trainer/broker and to get you some business.  Why would you think that most here don't understand the business of brokering dogs? Most understand it only too well. Your statemnent - "if you really want to learn something new, then be willing to listen" is also demeaning to most on this board as they have owned and trained dogs long before that thought even entered your mind.  Don't talk down to us and insult our intelligence by intimating that you are superior.

I have never been ripped off by a trainer or a broker although several have tried to part me from my money and I have personal knowledge of many who have been. I have never cheated anyone in a dog deal and no longer breed because I am am not in a position to take back the unwanted dogs and there are already way too many dogs sitting in rescue. I refuse to become a contributor to that ugly situation. To me it's sad that dog brokers are even needed in this society.

How about a link to your web site?

Blitzen,

WWW.AGoodDog.net

and the start of the service dog website:

WWW.AGoodDogAssistanceDogs.com(I think, I need to spend some time building it)

I am not trying peddle my "wares" so to speak, what I was trying to get across is not everyone who buys/sells dogs is a bad person.  That you have to research and learn.  That is a buyers responsibility to make intelligent choices about who they buy dogs from, etc....

Trust me, when I tell you, I have no desire to build business----I have plenty.  I do, however, like to travel, which is why I have offered my services to transport dogs, and why I have trained dogs in Europe as well as here.  I figure if I can help get someones dog from point a to point z and it covers a portion of the cost of my ticket, then why not?

I believe that those who have contacted me about that, will tell you, I don't expect them to pay everything, just what they would normally pay for putting a dog in cargo with a passenger and a percentage of my ticket, if I am planning a trip anyway.  If I am going exclusively for them, then I would expect the ticket to be paid for completly.

But, you do give off the impression that you are an "angry" person.  I am sorry for that. You act as tho anyone who makes an attempt to teach is in it for the money.....Do you want to know the real reason I posted this thread?  I posted in homes that some on this board would sit up and take notice, and start doing "right", rather than doing "wrong". 

I find that rather than attacking people, leading by example is a much more effective way of teaching. 

I am sorry that the internet has taken some of the nuiances out of communication.....as it seems to have here.

Yeah, I get angry all right especially when I get PM's about posters here who are exagerating their abilities. Let's just leave it at that.

Agree Blitzen on all counts and good for you to read between the lines. Some of the others who post here are simply naive. That is why so many get caught in these troubles with all these unethical breeders and brokers. Starting yet another thread about "reputable" breeders is bogus. It has been discussed ad nauseum here. Most of us know what such a definition is and again, the threads this person starts is more about promotion of oneself than anything else. I post regularly when I have time in response to what others start, but I have never started a thread so that I could promote myself....so excuse us dogtrainer if some of us are skeptical.

Dogtrainer just popped up recently and has an ad from a few months ago under trainer and has been promoting and posting here, with obvious desire to draw attention to herself. That is fine, but let's be honest about that. She may or may not be a decent trainer....who knows. But Blitzen knows, as do others, that in the GSD world that most on this board are involved in, this person is an unknown. So she is welcome to make all the claims she wishes, but they mean nothing to the wise. I looked weeks ago at her site......I will leave it at that.

I also do not like "dog brokers" because I very, very few who are honest and those who are would never call themselves a broker. I have assisted clients to purchase a dog or a pup, but I get nothing out of it.....not a single cent. Nor do I make a cent out of dogs I accept into my rescue program, care for vet wise, feed, perhaps give some basic socialization and training. And yes, I need to make a living, but I do it in other ways....maybe I am the one who is off-base and I should be raking in the dough from giving advice, training rescues, adopting out dogs, selling dogs no one wants etc. etc.

Whether one thinks of Schutzhund as a testament to ones's training skill or some other formal training program, I don't care. But there should be some proof of any claim and there are standards to meet in reputable programs. Just telling us that one is good does not count in my book. I train for myself and I train for others. I have titles to show for it, and testimonials if need be. But I do not need to promote myself here by my posts.

And for what it is worth dogtrainer....I don't get up on the wrong side of the bed either. Time will tell whether you are simply trying to make an HONEST living or not. If so, no one will fault you for that, including me and I suspect Blitzen too. However, time will tell whether you are who you say you are, are competent, or special or not.....but in the meantime, most of us will take a wait and see attitude. Your being defensive about our caution speaks volumes to me.

Hodie, if I'm considered to be an angry person, then so be it, but being a PetCo trainer and the ilk is not an endorsement of a dog trainer in my mind.

Well, you know I don't think you are an angry person at all. But I do know you are very astute and, as am I, sick of all the self aggrandizing and shameless promotion that goes one, especially when most of it is BS. This person may be an exception. As I said, TIME will tell, but, when someone doesn't get why some are cautious here, that says something too.

Now, go have a nice lemonade in the garden!!!

Cheers,

I think I'm feeling more like having a nice red wine . 

Tschau............

 OK, that works too!!!