Help with ivermectin - Page 3

The dosage of the ivermectin horse paste I use was formulated by a vet and it's what he gives his own dogs. Not everyone using paste and liquid is irresponsible.  Ivermectin is the drug of choice for heartworm preventative in dogs; nothing is 100%. I personally know many breeders who use the liquid and have been using it for many years and some live in areas where h-worm is very prevelant. They care very much about their dogs' health, they just don't care to pay the outrageous prices for the formulas that are already compounded for dogs. They choose to mix it themselves cutting the liquid or using it full strength in a lesser quantity.  Most vets in a small animal practice don't want you to know that you can use ivermectin liquid or paste, they want to sell you the high priced brand name, so they are going to discourage  you from doing it. 

The only difference between ivermectin paste or liquid and a brand name h-worm preventative with the active ingredient of ivermectin is the carrier agent/s.  If you don't feel comfortable dispensing your own, by all means do not do it, buy the already-compounded formula from your vet  then. However, the stuff you buy without a script at the feedstore does work just as well in the correct dosage.

BTW if your dog is allergic to beef or has some another food/protein allergy, it probably should not be given the chewable tablets as they are meat flavored with who knows what sort of meat or artificial additive. Are the ingredient disclosed on the packaging?

My vet is the one that gave me and everyone else here the data we use.....sorry to inform you,,but everything Ive ever typed here comes from one of three vets in my life....They are all not money hungry and they practice the same practice...My one vet is like Blitzen says...above and brings to light....do you know what is in that little cube of meat flavoured heartworm pill you put in your dogs mouth..???

Commercialisn is so much only for  money and the contents on dog food, supplies, treats and meds by chemical companies do not tell the truth.     The word natural is the most contrued word in the English language...Everything from oil, petroleum, bath tubs and the steering wheel on your car are all natural ingredients...but do you eat it......no..

If God didnt make it dont eat it or put it in your body.

No ivemec God didnt make    ,,,,But one chemical used all over the USA BY VETS., is used carefully....There are harmful side effects from IVemec just like all chemical preventatives,,,but I know when and what animal to give it to...and baby pups are not to be dipped or given any chemical unless their life is at stake ...Then a vet will be the one doing it.

Ramgsd is correct...Tales are told by vets, oh such and such gave it and his dogs all got hworms...Yeah, and if the truth be known  ,....how many months did the person forget to give it....or maybe it sat in the sun at their house for a day or so and guess what,,,it is not good anylonger... It is hard to speak for others , I just know what  I do...and Yes I skip a month every now and then...It is ok for me to skip because it is in that dogs system and not going to harm or be neglect.  I feel that a  skip is what I want to do...not to overdose or put as little chemical in  my dogs as possible.

Vets try to tell you if you use their meds, the chemical co. will pay for your dogs treatment if they get heartworms while on their meds...I have not heard of any one having such luck...If there are those , out there..I would love to hear on our board those who a company paid for the heartworm treatment that your dog received after you proved you gave it to them and no fault of you or your vet or dog.....Hope someone can give us a report on that...

I haven't posted on here for awhile but here it goes. I had all my dog's on the heart worm beef cube thingy, anyway 2 of them came down with heartworms!! I talked to my vet at the time and asked about Ivomectin, and they would not discuss that with me. I talked to a vet tech that gave me the dosage to use on them. They would not and do not sell the Ivomectin at my vets office. I had to go down to tractor supply and get it. Not once did heartguard pay for the treatment of both of my dog's.  I think everyone here knows the cost for the treatment of heartworms let alone the side effects it can cause. One of my dog's now has kidney disease from the heartworm treatment. One of the dead heartworms went the wrong way in her body and affected her kidney's. They all are on and will remain on Ivomec.

I've used the 1% Ivomec, labeled for cattle, for about 10 years now. Have never had a problem. What I did do was consult my vet about dosage. He resisted but realized that I was going to use it regardless and he wasn't going to win the argument. (I have, on average, 15 GSDs) He sat down and figured out the correct dosages for pups and adults and that is what I've been using. I don't deviate from that dosage. I strongly recommend you have a 'sit-down' with your vet and have them work out a dosage chart for you. There are just too many variables to consider, as you have seen here.

Spence

Just a FYI Ivoermectin IS THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT IN HEARTGUARD! Yes, Heartguard has other things in it too, but the drug itself has been used in heartworm preventative since we started giving preventative YEARS ago.

No need to wig out.

The dosage should be done by a vet. The vet that gave me the dosage for the paste said a "pea" size amount will treat up to 100 lbs. A little large size will have more worming effect. THE LIQUID CAN BE GIVEN BOTH ORALLY OR INJECTED. 1cc is the common dosage on the liquid.  I was also a vet tech for years and I know that many vets will not talk to you about giving your own ivermectin. There are other reasons than money for this. Not saying that making money is NOT the #1 reason some won't help you, but the other reason is that ivermectin on it's own does not kill all life stages of heartworms. Even though I use it for my own dogs, my reasoning is that eventually they will all die and the main thing IS to kill the micro-faleria (sp?). That is the very beginning stage from the mosquito and that is what ivermectin kills.

Hope that helps some.

Debby

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