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ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 10 April 2008 - 15:04

if you advertise a used car or pickup for sale, what are the first questions that a caller will ask?  "how many miles on it?'  "what do you have to have for it?"  if the information was included in the ad, people wouldn't have to ask and calls would then be reduced to truly interested parties.  as henry suggested, the ads that request serious inquiries only............well, if you've got all the information and still make the call, then it must be a serious interest.  i don't think its a bad idea to include some of the guarantees as well. 

pjp


Jamille

by Jamille on 10 April 2008 - 15:04

Ramage,

Ha !   LOL !! 

I almost bought a lottery ticket yesterday, but I had already payed for my stuff when I remembered !!  LOL  !! 

Oh well, I will buy the winning ticket today ! 


by HarleyGirl52874 on 10 April 2008 - 16:04

As a buyer, I do ask about price first as somebody else has said. That is not saying I don't care about the dog, but I too am on a budget and simply can't afford to pay $3000 for a dog. So again why waste everybody invovleds time, get my hopes up on this great dog, only to find out that it's not in my price range.

If I see a dog priced very low, I would still call and inquire about it. Since I already know the price, I would then go straight to the questions about the dog, first probably being why is the dog so "cheap".

If I were a seller, yes I would list the prices of my dogs. That way people will know before hand if one of my dogs were in their price range. As stated before, you gotta let out the price sometime.


Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 10 April 2008 - 16:04

I guess I am looking at it through my own eyes.

Here's the point, and I don't care how new you are to GSDs.  Most of the people on here should know the price range for a puppy or dog, right?    Even a newbie should have an idea.  If they don't have an idea, do they really know what they are looking for and getting into ?  Do they even know what a GSD is like? 

I'm not against putting a price on the ad.  I would rather see it than not.  I placed an ad a while ago and I think I put prices on there. 

My point is that if I am really interested, than I am going to call the person anyhow to ask other questions.  I am not Bill Gates, but price is one of the last things on my mind.  Think about it.  I will spend more on shots, food, training, equipment, gas, heartworm, flea medicine and time than I will on the purchase price in one year.   More with puppies than older dogs, but if you can't afford the initial price, then you cannot afford the upkeep.


by HarleyGirl52874 on 10 April 2008 - 17:04

"More with puppies than older dogs, but if you can't afford the initial price, then you cannot afford the upkeep."

 

I don't agree with that statement at all. Just because I can't afford 3000, and up for a puppy doesn't mean I can't afford the care for the dog. My dogs get proper vet care, food and love. If a major emergency comes up, no I don't have thousands on hand, but I would do what I would do if my son had an emergency, make payments. Which I have had to do with both fur and skin kids.

 


by Trafalgar on 10 April 2008 - 19:04

In the transaction of selling a dog (or puppy) there are always at least two parties (3 including the dog) whose interests may or may not overlap.

As far as the question of the dog being the right "fit" - both parties generally benefit from a great match.

In terms of price - the interests of the two parties widely diverge.

It is not in the interest of the buyer to pay more (although some foolish people, afraid or cavalier, will not face this point head on). Even if one has extreme wealth paying more than necessary carries no real benefit - although it MIGHT serve a psychological purpose of inflating one's ego.

The interest of the breeder - on the other hand - is to maximize the amount of money they get. Very few even try to conceal that from themselves although many CLAIM they don't care about the  money and usually the most vociferous critics of breeders are ---other breeders! (Competition pisses many people off).

Therefore: It is often thought to be of benefit to the breeder to hold back the pricing in an ad while - I believe - it is never to the benefit of the buyer.

If one is buying a pet where the demand is very high compared to the supply - the breeder will most certainly eliminate prospective buyers that want to know price right away. Asking price right away usually will cause the breeder to be fearful and angry that the potential buyer will drive a hard bargain -and- they will mask that fear and anger by judging the potential buyer to be a poor candidate for one of their pets. Usually breeders claim that people who haggle over price are bad pet owners, etc.... It's called 'sour grapes' or 'rationalization'. Personally, I believe they should be more direct and let the person know that they'll bargain right back because they want the most money they can get. Honesty is best, in my opinion.

Therefore, it is in everyone's interest to recognize that breeders and puppy buyers have DIFFERENT interests when it comes to price. It's also very important for buyers to stand up for their right to want a price that is LOWER than the average for the type of dog they are getting. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR OWN INTEREST. In fact it shows that you aHEALTHY sense of self.

Simply bypass the concern over price by ALWAYS inguiring about 10 times the number of dogs/puppies you want, and keep track of the prices asked by breeder. Make your selection from the lower half of the price range.

NEVER give a deposit for a puppy yet unborn - and never pay more for a puppy than the average for the type of puppy one is getting. Of course this can't be totally objectively evaluated - but it can be controlled to a basic degree.

Breeders should sell puppies for whatever they can get for them (besides - they ALWAYS claim to not be in it for the money anyway)....But it's the buyer's responsibility to make sure they don't overypay.

With a world CHUCK FULL of GSD....shopping for a great price is NOT CRUDE...it is CRUCIAL.

IMO


Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 10 April 2008 - 19:04

HarleyGirl

I heard someone just yesterday tell me that the only reason they took the $600 yellow lab, is because someone in their church traded the puppy, otherwise they couldn't afford it.  Believe it or not, but not everyone on this site is talking about $3000 puppies.  Some people sell theirs for $1000 and people can't afford that.  It is kind of like the idiots that win the Lotto.  They win 10 million.  They spend $4 million on a house, $300,000 on cars, buy mom a house for $500,000, buy a condo for $500,000, buy a boat and so on.  They quickly find out that the taxes, insurance and utility bills are more than they have in their account and they lose most of their money trying to unload a $10,000 Sq FT house that looks like a redneck did the interior design.

I think you were talking the extreme. 


AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 10 April 2008 - 19:04

I think advertising with a price eliminates the window shoppers.  I don't have time to talk to 20 people everyday answering the same questions over and over if they a. can't afford what I have or b. aren't ready to buy and are "just looking".  And by the same token when I am looking to buy a dog I'd like to know if it's in my price range before I place a call to waste someone elses time.

Most people have a pretty good idea of what they are looking for specifically and what "about" it's gonna cost.  Having a max. amount you're able to spend will help you find what you're looking for much faster if everyone listed prices.  I just wondered if the reason most don't list a price is because of competition in the sales area?? 


by Willy on 10 April 2008 - 20:04

Just my 2 cents worth... I looked for a pup for over 1 a year. I would spend lots of time on the phone with breeders and then find out the pup was 1800-2500 dollars. I was looking for a compain dog, no breeding right, but wanted to do agility, and search and rescue. After many breeders telling me I would not find a good pup in my price range i almost gave up. Then I finally found a breeder who care where the dog would go instead of just money. I paid 900.00 for my girl, and 700 for my male. There parents have titles, ofa ect. So patience had to come for me, but it would of been nice not to waste my time or the breeders time to find out the price before hand.


Ceph

by Ceph on 10 April 2008 - 20:04

Personally - I'm going to look at the information on the dog first.  But at the same time...my budget isnt great - so spending alot of time talking about how great that dog is and finding out about it....and then asking the price last only to find out it is out of your league is a waste of both your time and the breeders/

You can find really awsome dogs for low costs, and really awsome dogs for high costs.  I want to know if that really awsome dog is in my price range before I waste everyones time.

~Cate






 


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