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by Blitzen on 04 February 2008 - 15:02
Ditto to Domenic. 13 litters? Does that mean at least 13 brood bitches or half as many that are bred on every season? A computerized drawing of a kennel set up? Gimme a break.

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 04 February 2008 - 15:02
delacruz- Sounds more like "fantasy factory" to me. lol I can tell you a facility like that would probably cost $500,000 JUST to build, have electrical, plumbing and HVAC installed. Then you have the elaborate SCH field they designed along with the beautiful landscaping....so now factor in what the land would cost to put such a facility on and well IMO you have yourself a very nice "Doggie Disney Land" LOL We haven't even gotten into the investment on the dogs for this 13+ litter a year breeding business or the staff you'd need to operate such a facility....
Quite an imagination though we should give some credit there to the poster.

by Mystere on 04 February 2008 - 15:02

by jc.carroll on 04 February 2008 - 16:02
Mongolia. The poster claims location in Mongolia. Unfortunately, I don't think it's a hoax; unless it's something long and elaborate that the poster has been continuing for quite some time as per the poster's previous comments and threads.
I'd rather see real pics than CAD-view CGI. A CAD-view doesn't indicate reality.
I'm also wondering if the poster has both Tibetan Mastiffs and GSDs, because the website that their thread links to has both pictured. If so, is this a loss of 13 litters TOTAL, or 13 litters of GSDs and an unmentioned number of TMs. The poster refers to 13 litter deaths as a headache... I'd call it a catastrophy. And planning future litters without isolating and eliminating the problem... I have no pleasant terms by which to call that.

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 04 February 2008 - 16:02
Mystere- Oh my lord, you just made me very happy to live on the East Coast. LOL
If this was not a hoax then perhaps someone is poisoning his dogs?? Perhaps a disgruntled former employee, business partner or even competitor?? Strange that only the puppies are getting sick and dying. But the pups are not dying within a short time after birth but a couple months afterwards??? The whole thing still sounds fishy to me.
I'd never buy or sell a dog to Mongolia or India anyways.

by wanderer on 04 February 2008 - 19:02
Apparently the original poster is looking for foreign investment money for his facility. In his profile section you can see his website address in one of the posts. He appears to be from Mongolia.
Here is also a link to some information articles and pictures in German language which I can't read: http://www.ovcharka.mn/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=1&id=4&Itemid=11
by hodie on 04 February 2008 - 21:02
Agar and Dominic,
Agar wrote: "NO ONE can possibly be THAT friggin dumb and stupid." Yes they can and this person apparently is.
Dominic my friend, it is about MONEY,,,,,nothing else.
And for those of you who think 13 litters a year is a lot, look around you right here is the good ol' USA and Canada. Off the top of my head I can name names who breed nearly this many litters, if not more. Why? MONEYYYYYYYY!!!! None of these people give a tinkers' damn about the dogs or the breed, even though some boast of being "admired" throughout the world for their dogs. BS.
by zacsmum on 04 February 2008 - 22:02
Hmmm..............the website? I think the dog which can be seen in a pic leaping some fencing has the right idea. Run, and dont look back!
by Aqua on 04 February 2008 - 23:02
Someone made a wild guess and proclaimed, " I don't think the poster is in India, either. The syntax hints at South America to me." Not a very good hint. A tiny amount of research would have given you a direct hit rather than guess work.
Sukh is in Ulan-Bator, Mongolia, and his URL has already been cited. The German newspaper article on his site states that he established a relationship with Herman Beil of vom Schornfelsen, located in the Black Forest, and bought five whelps from Beil. GSDs are honored as the King of Dogs in Mongolia with their value being commensurate. The article mentions the kennel facility and says it is expected to be completed 'in September'. Unfortunately, there is no publication date so it's unknown which year that might refer to.
Sukh, have you discussed this situation with Herr Beil? Or perhaps hire a veterinary team for a few months to evaluate possible causes and advise you? I gather you have an extraordinary amount of money invested in this venture. Before it all crashes down around you due to illness and death you might want to consider spending some of it on professionals rather than looking for help here. These issues appear to be far beyond the scope of an Internet forum.

by Shepherd Woman on 04 February 2008 - 23:02
I can see this board hasn't changed at all, LOL
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