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by JBT on 18 November 2007 - 22:11
Accidents do happen so there is both a pill and or injection that will abort the pregnancy. It's the same drug and will bring the female back into heat again. There are possible side effects so please consult a reproduction specialist besides your local Vet. Have been breeding dogs for 35 + years and seen just about everything at one time or another.
Jeff

by yellowrose of Texas on 18 November 2007 - 22:11
dont give the drugs let the dog have the pups but guess what She may not be pregnant.....good possiblilty she is not.....a lot of matings at this age are never implanted at the right time and this abortion pill or injection does have a bad effect later....dont do it...... if she is preg sell the akc registered pups and say oops
By yourself with the money from the litter one of those iron kennels and put a welded wire top on it and concrete blocks all around the bottom for the male and hide the female in a crate for 25 or so days next time....

by meanderer990 on 19 November 2007 - 01:11
Thanks for the tips everyone. I'll talk to my vet and make a decision Monday morning. I don't want to produce this litter though.
Can see the add now...akc showline/working line mix, cheap. Plus she's so young it's like a 13 yo having a baby...not good.
by Abhay on 19 November 2007 - 06:11
Dr. Leon F Whitney was one of the great scientific canine breeders of the 20th century. He was a proponent of breeding bitches on the first heat. In one of his many masterful books How To Breed Dogs, he said
"There seems to be no reason for not breeding a bitch the first time she is ready, and often many good reasons for doing so."
and also
"I have made very many of these first season matings and have never seen a bitch harmed in any way by it."
Dr Whitney bred over 12,000 puppies in his lifetime, and I think him to be one of the foremeost authorities on the subject of dog breeding. Page 53 and 54 of How To Breed Dogs covers this subject, with some of the same explanation of there being more elasticity of the pelvis in the juvenile bitch.
The only reason for not doing so in my judgement would be that if one had a standard of breeding females that had already proven their worth as performers first, it is awfully hard to assess that before the first estrus cycle.

by yellowrose of Texas on 19 November 2007 - 07:11
I hate to inform you but half the dogs in the usa have both show line and work lines in them not a new thing....
Pirol v Enclavehof was bred to several show lines by GH one being Cassie v SteffenHaus If the podium people do , it must be ok

by meanderer990 on 20 November 2007 - 01:11
Today I figured I'd be safe since I had to go to
work. I put the male in the crate inside and her outside
in the kennel. I come home to find that he somehow
opened the side window on his vari-kennel, squeezed
out of that hole, opened the sliding glass door and
broke into the chain link kennel again!!!!
Unbeleivable!

by Rezkat5 on 20 November 2007 - 01:11
He's one motivated fellow! Where there's a will there's a way apparently for him! Sounds like she needs an ivory tower! My male gets pathetic and when it's close to that time I don't even give them the opportunity. ie: one comes to work with me 35 miles away and sits in the car! I don't take any chances! Riding in the car to training one day was fun, him barking the entire way!!!!!
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