Waste Removal and Odor Control for Kennels - Page 3

Sort of like a litter box area in the kennel?  How long did it take your dog (s) to start using this?  Great idea.

Dawn

They used it right away except for one female  and still here and there she will use the kennel floor . Pups also use it right away :)) It sure makes life easier for me :) At first I did take a piece of poop and placed it in the box  don't know if that helped. I get imports from germany and I do not use the poop in biox first method and they use the box right away :) 

 my  kennel floors outdoors are  on decking ( wood)  easy drainage ,easy on joints because the wood decking gives :) Inside kennels I use horse mats because indoors I have cement floors. In addition  I do have 3 very  large kennels ,they are part wood part dirt/stone   those kennels have no boxes .

Pia

Pine-Sol says 15% pine oil 85% "other ingredients" but doesn't specify what those are. It is and eye and skin irritant also, so basicly treat it the same as you would bleach. I agree it smells better and doesn't burn my lungs when I breathe it in. Thanks for the idea Molly. Sometimes things are so obvious, yet they don't come to mind. Doy! I have dirt kennels with gravel on top. Used to have shavings which I liked better. I can't lay concrete and have been using the rubber horse mats but cut them into a pad for dogs to lay on. I'm going to lay the whole kennel in mat. Seems easier to clean, better on joints and less pain in the ass than gravel! I had trouble with one of my dogs chewing the mat I laid in his kennel but think having one whole mat will nix that problem.

I have used Simple Green in the past fro smell and cleaning of mats too.

I agree about the use of Odo Ban and and that one should regularly dispose of wastes for trash pick-up. However, personally, I would discourage the use of Pinesol (a phenol derived from coal tar) as a disinfectant and cleaning product. Pinesol is highly toxic to cats and is potentially toxic to many dogs causing symptoms such as CNS/ respiratory depression, birth defects, etc. You may recall when Phisohex (hexochlorophene--yet another member of the phenol family of chemicals) was discontinued for routinely bathing human neonates. Here is a article on canine hexaclorophene toxicity: http://jvdi.org/cgi/reprint/2/2/129.pdf.

I do use the "litterbox" equivalent for my dogs. My dogs love to hang out in the front patio area which has a new synthetic, covered deck and which is surrounded by a huge expanse of Basalite paving stones. I had the contractor reserve one, small corner (~7x10 feet) as a "litterbox" with 4x6 inch boundary (next next to 6-foot redwood rencing) of pressure-treated redwood. I fill the box with Muck Buster (by Mallard Creek) cedar chips (coarser than pine shavings--less likely to blow about) which product is designed for use in horse stalls. The Muck Buster smells fresh, keeps fleas away, may be deodorized/disinfected with a dilute Clorox and/or Odo Ban spray (in a dispenser attached to a garden hose), and disposed of as needed.

Also, one of my side yards (~12x60 feet) is paved with cement except for one "litterbox" strip (~5x20 feet) along one, back corner of the redwood fencing. Although the male dogs do tend to pee on the fence, they all have trained themselves to poop in the box. The opposite end of this side yard is shaded by a 12x20 foot portable carport. As you can see, I don't have any "kennels"--I have simply fenced off several sections of the yard for use by the critters. Oh, yes, the backyard is largely for my pleasue and is sodded, has a wide path of decomposed granite long the fence, and some huge, shady trees. BTW, the decomposed granite paths keep the fenceline free of mud during the winter.

eichenluft said:

"and the fact that when I use bleach (always diluted in water) on the indoor runs, my eyes water/nose burns - which means it must really bother the dogs until it's dried."

Many people don't realize this, but spraying bleach (even diluted!) on urine (ammonia) creates a very hazardous CHLORINE GAS, which can be fatal to humans AND dogs (and is what causes your eyes to water and sting, and cause you to have problems breathing!)  Chlorine gas was first used as a weapon in World War I by Germany on April 22, 1915 in the Second Battle of Ypres, killing approximately 6000 soldiers due to asphyxiation due to the destruction of the respiratory tissues. .ALWAYS remove your dogs from the area until it is completely dried and only use bleach (even diluted bleach) in OPEN and WELL VENTILATED areas, because short of wearing a gas mask, regular HEPA masks typically only filter particulate matter and wouldn't do you much, if any, good.

Just thought I would share and maybe save a life!  :)

I am going to post this as a separate post as well.

-Melanie

I use either Odo-Ban and bleach mixed or PineSol and Bleach mixed.  Pinesol and Odo ban are the ONLY things you can mix with bleach though!  I learned both mixtures from working in vet clinics for years!

Vickie

www.PowerHausKennels.com

<<ALWAYS remove your dogs from the area until it is completely dried and only use bleach (even diluted bleach) in OPEN and WELL VENTILATED areas, >>

I didn't know this - but the burning/breathing I got when bleach (diluted) was used in the INSIDE kennel runs, was why I switched to Pine Cleaner, for the inside runs.  I still use diluted bleach on the outside runs with no problem - and the runs are hosed thoroughly, and then squeegied almost-dry before dogs are allowed back into the outside. 

molly

I imagine that aerosolizing many products--causing inhalation--could be toxic. Actually, if any liquid product has a characteristic scent/order, that indicates presence of a gaseous state (vapor). For the most part, I use NOTHING but water for cleaning dog areas. Picking up poop and regularly hosing down all areas (including the "litterboxes" with the Muck Buster cedar chips) with water keeps the place smelling fresh (never reeking).

In veterinary clinics, much of the cleaning/disinfection is done with a mop, bucket, squeegee.

Lay a gully around the kennel, dig a soak-away put a S trap in to keep the smell from rising, if you remove all the solid when cleaning the soakaway will last a good 5 years or more.

I didn't read all of these posts because truly there is no use. I know what works best for me. Sorry if it has been mentioned. Borax powder and vinegar.

Scoop up the crap, put vinegar on it, let it soak for a couple minutes if you like. You can make a mix of water with some more vinegar and put a decent amount of Borax. You can put a sunlight dish detergent or something like that for smell. Type of mop depends on the surface. Personally I prefer a squeege type mop.

This will kill bacteria, leave it smelling nice(i like the smell of vinegar) and is fine for environment and no harm to dogs!

I have cleaned hundreds of kennels. This works.