Katrina victims ~ Not for the fainthearted ~ABC News - Page 3

Globle warming wont go away over night. Mother Nature has just started to kick back. Do you think it will get better on its own, lol.  I have been studying weather changes as a hobbie for years. I have noticed the changes in the last few years and we are headed for bigger and better storms and deverstation. Even here in Australia I know about YellowStone and it is due to blow, it will change the world as we know it. With all the activity down our end of the earth over the last few years is a warning to everyone else.  The world has had mother nature lash out at them in so many different parts and we still don't listen.

We need to plan beyond what we know because we have never been here before.  I have plans that could take me to the other end of Australia if needed and there is a place to stay with my animals. 5 states out of 7 isn't bad, though I hope to never use it. And I'm here for them.

I would have been shot staying with my dog, if that's what measures they took. And if they managed to get me out without my dog (by force) I would have made my way back as my dog would do for me. How dare they. I am sorry to the police that do their job properly, whistle blowing time. This is why it is so hard to get a cop, no one wants to be a whistle blower, there goes ones life.....Ena

I saw the story tonight on CBS  and they shot these  dogs in two schools where the dogs were and filled their bodies with not one bullet but sme up to 6 and 7 shots     blood all over the walls and the one lady whose dog had a St. Chistopher Medal and painted toenails found her dog there after she got back and it was shot in the head,,,,they forced her to leave her lap dog and wouldnt let her carry it on the boat....There is a class action law suit now against the lawenforcement and one deputy has already been fired , tonight, according to the cbs reporters...They interviewed  many on this.....and overheard policmen saying  I cant  wait till all of them get out of here, were gonna have a good shootin ole time of it....one of the owners of a dog testified tonight on the interview....so it is serious....and aweful.

Dont get me wrong. I have friends who came here to stay with me who evacuated from Katrina. They lost their home. I work regularly in Louisiana and I see the impact first hand and I am there for my friends who are still dealing with the impact.

The -mandatory- evacuation was given two days(Mandatory evac on 8-28, landfall on 8-30) before landfall. Anyone with any sense got out of dodge before the mandatory evacuation was issued by the Mayor of New Orleans. The only reason why a mandatory evac. order was given was that people -werent- leaving. Check out this Radar image...tell me honestly if you would "tough it out."  Katrina was the almost as big as Texas for goodness' sake.

This site also deals with the mandatory evac. order.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/

There are lots of socio-economic issues relating to why people didnt get out of town. There is a lot of poverty in New Orleans, and that is a sad fact. All I was saying if we choose to have a dog, then we have duty to be sure that we can protect them.

Ashah, "How come the cops didn't give animal rescue time to do their job?"

They were ordered to evacuate.

Only emergency services personell were -ordered- to stay and a large percentage of police and fire people deserted and left the city and quit their jobs, as they knew what was coming down the line.  Those that were there were hopelessly overwhelmed with the scope of the disaster. Amid the crisis they had looting in the extreme, many killings, and loads of violence. It was really a martial law type of enviornment with the military called in to maintain order, aid in rescue, and to protect rescuers. People were angry, upset, irrational- not that I blame them.

There seemed to be an assumption by the PTB that everyone in New Orleans had a means of evacuating. No one gave a thought to those people who had no access to a car, other than to tell them to go to the stadium. And if you read the news accounts at the time, you know what a disaster THAT was. The facility was totally overwhelmed by the number of people. They ran out of food and water. The toilets stopped working once the hurricane hit, and there was little or no medical care.

The saddest sight I saw were those hundreds of buses flooded and rendered useless by the hurricane, buses that could have been used to evacuate people, if the local and national government had had more foresight.

Yup, better have an individual disaster plan, because judging by what happened during Katrina, you sure won't be able to depend on the government to rescue you.

I don't see where anyone commenting on this thread has assumed everyone effected by Katrina was able to evacuate, what I read that people are saying is it is up to the individual to make a plan of what to do or how to get out before/during/after any disaster .  If anything, what happened to animals & people in the aftermath of  Katrina makes that painfully obvious. 

"one of the dog owners testified tonight on the interview"

Speaking to a reporter is not "testimony," as the declarant is not under oath and thus is not subject to the penalties of perjury (the old legal standard from the English common law used to be "the pains and penalties of perjury," but people aren't tortured for perjury these days).  In criminal matters, it is especially important to draw a distinction between what a witness says out of court to a friendly reporter seeking a shocking story while not under oath, and what he says in sworn testimony that can be challenged by the accused on cross-examination.  And frankly, it does a government case no good for potential witnesses to make statements to the media that can provide a basis for the defense to impeach their direct testimony on cross-examination with any inconsistencies between the out-of-court statement and the direct testimony.

It certainly sounds as though something bad happened, but I'm not ready to say that these guys should be fired and convicted on the basis of a news story.  If a court finds that they did needlessly slaughter these pets with the level of malice alleged, I would certainly want to see maximum and consecutive sentencing on all counts for which they were convicted.

suecc, you misunderstood me, I think. I am saying that those in power (Powers That Be) made that assumption. If they did not, they certainly grossly underestimated the number that had no means of transport out of the city.

Sorry, Sunsilver I did indeed misunderstand your post.