MSNBC vote on Spay/Neuter - Page 3

THANK YOU Sueincc. You understood.

Amen!!!!!

OK did anyone understand the above post  ???????   What is the defenition of PET.  

My defenition is obviously different than yours.   and that is OK,  I just hate being called a hater when it's a simple misinterpretation of definition that has NOT been CLEARLY defined !!   Can you understand that ??   any of you?  and NO this is not an ATTACK why is always Echo is attacking,  OMG read the freaking post..  DEFINE PET and then disagree with me and it's all good,  but god forbid I disagree with anything on this board,  as then I'm labeled the hater.  what the heck ????????

Your allowed to debate any point in any statement I make and I don't pull that "you hate me card"  the "Your attacking" card. 

But I debate anything and it's an attack,  that's BS

Echo, per many of our definitions YOU BREED PETS.  Your dogs are not titled per GSD protocal prior to being bred.  Yet you seem to think it is wonderful to demand any and all breeders be subjected to laws costing hundreds of dollars per year to keep PETS from being bred.  And gee, wouldn't you be one of those doing the multiple times per year visit to insure they were doing things to your standards?  If you really are AC as you claim it would fall upon you to inspect premisis as part of your job.   Wouldn't that be enough to scare the stuffing out of people, you on your high horse playing supreme ruler deciding who passes and who doesn't to be able to breed dogs. 

When, and IF, you ever decide to step up and follow GSD protocal prior to breeding more PETS, then you would have a leg to stand on in this discussion.  Until then, nothing you say has any meaning.

It's getting very old EM. Step up and do the right thing yourself before lamblasting others and accusing them of breeding for no reason.

Policemom-I think the I don't know votes may be reasoned people who see the need to decrease overpopulation in pets yet are trying to balance that against the history of any level of government enforcing such an ordinance.  Not to mention the near unenforcability of such a law.  At what age would it be done? Eight weeks like most rescues? Three to four mos like most vets suggest? After maturation as many people believe? Which body of evidence held by each of these camps would the policy be set on? And how would anyone besides the owner know the exact age of the litter to enforce it? How would enforcer even know about the existance of the litter. I know very few people who live outside of towns who actually even register their dogs.

Any or none of these factors could have played into their indecision.

Echo,

I don't want to hijack this thread so am starting another.

Dawg

We ALL understood it, that's the problem.

"the average pet I do beleive should be sterilized so that "unwanted litters" don't occur".   <---  My quote 

Did any single person read that line in the above post.

there are several KEY WORDS,   such as...  I, beleive, should, unwanted

anyone,  anyone at all catch that ??

So what about yours?

Some people believe that spaying and neutering of their pets is not healthy for the animal, and these people also believe that with all the pressure to spay and neuter, the negative affects of this on animals has either been minimized or not properly studied. 

I have a friend from Germany, and she says most people do not spay and neuter over there, believeing it is not healthy, they just keep their pets under control.  I have to consider--- how healthy is it for a female to have a historectomy at an early age?

I am on the fence on this one...I promote altering of pets at owner's discretion, but my friend's beliefs have challenged me, as she is a pretty smart cookie.  I can't find any real research on the possibly serious negative effects of altering animals. 

Can anyone point me to a good professional source of information on research done on the long term results of spaying and neutering? 

I believe that everyone should have the right to make their own decisions concerning the surgical techniques of altering their animals, which is invasive in the case of females.  Quite frankly, it scares me when people start talking about forcing me to do something like this against my will with law.  That is such a slippery slope!  Look at income tax in the USA.  Did you know that it was supposed to be temporary?  But once it passed into law.....

Have I mentioned I'm a Libertarian?   Veronica