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by Blitzen on 03 June 2007 - 12:06

BUSTED!!!! 


by ScrewedByBroker on 03 June 2007 - 13:06

Here she goes again, and again  *sigh* :( 

Vom Felsenhof

Always the busy body. Always looking for anyway to make herself look like the good guy. HA! Sometimes the only way a person can try to make them selves look good is by degrading another and damn, Vom Felsenhof that is one of your specialties. Honestly, I don't know how you live with yourself let alone have the balls to be seen again on this or any dog forum.

You think we have all forgotten your name and deceptive acts? Wrong!

What about the D rating you earned yourself with the Better Business Bureau Bureau in just 8 months for "non receipt of dog"? Nice rating considering you have only been using the name Felsenhof for less than 18 months. Nice  HA!

What about You and the other kennel names you have used and had to drop because of your shitty track record and reputation in the dog world?

What about all the claims filed against you and your irreputable "dog practices" on the Rip Off Report http://ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&q5=vomFelsenhof and this one http://ripoffreport.com/reports/0/190/RipOff0190305.htm and don't forget the complaint against you on another GSD forum,

and what about all the other "alias's" you have used on this and other GSD forums? Like this one for example that you have used on here?  http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/userinfo.html?userid=10532 Kreighauser?

What about this one? What about your practice of convincing people to buy a dog from you and keeping their money And the dog you sold them? My my, what a lovely human being YOU yourself are. HA!  http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/69216.html  and this one? http://gsdonline.com/complaints/Vom_Felsenhof.php

No, I don't think your coming back on this forum and trying to poke a finger at others, causing troubles and acting like the "good guy" and trying to make any of us forget your direputable acts will do you any good, regardless of what kennel name or forum alias you are currently using.

Why don't you find something else to do, perhaps something legitimate or honest or productive for a change rather than coming back here causing trouble for others? Perhaps try getting a job at a Carnival luring unsuspecting people out of their money there? You'd be great at that! In fact I'll even let you use me as a reference on your job application with them. The Carnival is coming to town this time of year. Good luck, I'm sure several other of us here will gladly give you a job reference on your application. Perhaps you could even consider a job at a pet shop selling weak and diseased pups to unsuspecting families on commission? At least that would be more honest that what you have done representing and selling the German Shepherd.

Perhaps it is YOUR picture that should be posted here with the word "Wanted" below it? Or maybe it is already posted at the Post Office?

signed,

ScrewedbyBroker

 


greatestgsd

by greatestgsd on 03 June 2007 - 13:06

Police officers do screw people! I sold a puppy to a local police officer about 6 or 7 years ago, he ask if he could put half down and I keep the paper work until he paid the other half. Never happened! Has not paid the other half yet! I donated 3 dogs to a police dept., they asked if they could use my crates to transport them and they will return them. Let me see, that was a year ago this past Jan. Still no crates returned! I have learned not to trust officers!

4pack

by 4pack on 03 June 2007 - 14:06

Yes Yellow, it's true. I got your email form last night and have responded.

Well I am for certain at least Kathy/gsdluvr2 knows this to be true. If you need proof ask her or see my myspace link and look at my friends list. You will find GARD as my first friend and his dogs and he, are in many of my slideshows.

Not rocket science guys or another conspirecy. We have been open about it here just didn't spell it out well enough I guess. Not everyone here reads every post, so who knows who read or didn't read what???

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=118704615


by funk man on 03 June 2007 - 14:06

Um, von felsenhof, I have nothing to do with vom haelden. Are you on the same crack that seriously and policemom are smoking? If i were Mike, I would care less who knows my identity. I would care less if anyone knocked on my door. Your post is a bit coo-coo. Any reading the post after yours, it seems you are in the SAME BOAT! lmfao. Keep researching, you may hit it some day!

VomFelsenHof

by VomFelsenHof on 03 June 2007 - 14:06

"Screwed By Broker",

My lawsuit against you is still in court, in case you have forgotten? When a lawsuit for Breach of Contract and Libel is filed against you and is in fact still in the Court system, the wise thing to do is to stop trying to make the other person look bad by twisting facts to suit you and blatantly lying. The many, many USPS mails regarding the dog that you posted about (ripoffreport from Evansville, pedigree database, and GSDonline are posted by YOU), I sent you that you RETURNED REFUSED are still sitting here, unopened. You return REFUSED and UNOPENED all of the mail I sent you and then have the temerity to sit and ask where your money is? Come on, now. Our many conversations via email and IM are saved and printed out for Court. You have refused to pay me what was owed and come get your dog. I suppose you think it fair that people pay everything for you, such as all costs, including stud fee and shipping for multiple AI's of one of your other bitches, the broker fee for importation of a dog, boarding for months before your bitches come in heat and until the dog is confirmed pregnant, the ultrasound to confirm pregnancy, stud service to a VA sired, V, SchH3, FH2, Kkl1 proven male, delivering a dog to you hundreds of miles from home, etc., (especially since I was pregnant and high risk?) I refuse to sit here with you and see who can pee further, especially as a lady.

Suffice it to say that once this is settled in Court, I will be happy to discuss everything on here. Until then, I refuse to battle this out on this database when Court is where it belongs, especially when these people are tired of hearing it. If anyone wants details, they are certainly welcome to contact either of us privately.

The other ripoffreport was posted by one "breeder" I stupidly purchased a puppy from years ago, who got upset when I took an unpurchased website that happened to be her kennel name to tell people when they contacted me what she had done to me. The BBB was one complaint from you (they removed it when presented with evidence and that I had filed against YOU in Court) and one from a puppy buyer who wanted the pick of the litter male for pet companion price, who I returned the deposit to prior to the BBB complaint requesting I return the deposit!

As to KrieghauserGSD, that most certainly WAS ME, until I said the name of the person owning the same kennel who sold me the puppy that I paid $3500 (plus shipping) for, and got a dog with no registration for for 2 years (and now have LIMITED registration!). This was no different than what anyone else had done (and continues to do) on here, yet because of a threat of lawsuit, my login name was removed by Oli. Since then, I have actually READ the terms of service, and do my best to abide by them. I post with solely ONE login name (unlike yourself). I didn't "drop" that kennel name because I had a bad reputation. I decided not to breed working lines any longer, so a kennel name of "WAR HOUSE" was not appropriate.

When someone clearly is lying, and it can be proven, it should be, don't you think? If I am lying about things, then you should consider it your duty to prove to others that I am. Before you post things from this "truth" you think you have, perhaps it is wise to consider the source of these "truths". If I am being honest, perhaps you should consider even more what you say about me when it will be proven to be LIES in court?  Again, just my opinion.

-Melanie


VomFelsenHof

by VomFelsenHof on 03 June 2007 - 14:06

funk man,

Yes, policemom and I are on the same crack--the crack of eyes OPENING and seeing the truth staring us in the face.  ;)  I believe that others can see truth for themselves. People aren't as stupid as you take them for.

And Um, it's not that hard to do a background check when given a name (especially when you have a previous address to go with the name). Many list employer, etc. How do you think they find people for bad debt collections purposes???  What are those, $30 to research these days?

I digress....

It would be best to just come clean and be honest. Lies are like snowballs. They get bigger and bigger because the liar must add to them to cover other lies. Eventually the snowball runs over the liar.

This world would be a much better place if people would just be honest with one another. Hey, if I have a problem with someone, they'll know about it. Why sit and bite like a snake in the grass? Many people don't know there is a problem unless you bring it to their attention. Most of the time, it can be reasoned out (with the reasonable!).

For instance, the owners of the B litter vom Haelden, I am sure would be happy to receive their puppy papers. It would be easy to get that situation resolved. Heck, I'd be willing to bet that they would even be willing to split the cost of Hera between them and pay the owner in Germany who never got paid and even pay for the AKC registration so they could get their own dogs' registration! Not fair, but I'd be willing to bet on it, and I'm not a gambling woman!

PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES, the hard part is owning up to those mistakes and making it right. While people won't necessarily LOVE you, they will at least respect you for fixing the problem.

-Melanie

 


by funk man on 03 June 2007 - 14:06

WOW Melanie, talk about calling the kettle black! Stop your crimes. Your husbands career could be on the line. He is a police officer isnt he? I emailed com haelden to clear things up.

Say, wasnt it you Melanie, who had moderator rights on this board for a brief period of time? Yes I beleive it was! Oli had to remove that status from you and your little friend because he caught you flaming with different SCREEN NAMES. Awww,,, its OK Melanie, you will feel worthy someday.


VomFelsenHof

by VomFelsenHof on 03 June 2007 - 15:06

funk man,

You posted the EXACT same thing shortly after I emailed you regarding Hera.

I take it you've decided to come clean, since you're comparing yourself with me (not the best of comparisons, considering I have done nothing wrong!)

Yes, my husband is a police officer. I haven't done anything wrong or dishonest and definitely not illegal! Besides that point, YOU are clearly NOT a police officer, or you would know that even if I HAD been dishonest or done something, (which I have not!) someone else could never be held accountable for another party's actions. (unless of course, the party was a minor and the other person were a parent/guardian or the other person had legal guardianship of the other party)

Yes, you are correct. I DID have moderator rights on this database, along with 2 other people. Yes, I DID tell people exactly what the breeder that I bought my dog from had done, and I believe one other moderator also had a problem with the same breeder and posted as well. (another person, who like you, allegedly imported a dog that was not paid for and had a litter--I got a puppy from that resulting litter and could therefor sympathize with the owners of the B litter of yours that had the same problem, which was why I wrote you to begin with, to find out WHY you had not registered Hera or the puppies and when it was likely to be done) Yes, Oli removed moderator status from all of us. Besides bringing up my 100% honest post regarding that breeder as I already mentioned, (how many of those do you see on here, and if can be proven TRUE, then I think they are totally appropriate, but best to just have people email you privately or put a link up to the information proving the accusation, rather than posting it on this database.) what exactly is this but an attempt to divert attention away from yourself?

I, unlike you, have been totally honest. And if I had done what Screwed By Broker claims I have, don't you think she would have already filed a lawsuit against me, rather than vice versa? Like I said, most people can tell the truth for themselves.

-Melanie


by funk man on 03 June 2007 - 15:06

HELLO??!!!! Can you read?! I am NOT Mike. Open your eyes & go back to trollingon all of your names you freak.





 


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